Andy81 Posted September 24, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 Our Portuguese players have bought into Wolves much more than most of the British players we've had for decades before. We have more of a connection with this squad than any I can remember, the only one that comes close to me would be the 08/09 promotion squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I'm surprised by this. I see a lot of things differently as I don't have the local connection the majority you guys have, but if my local team or Villa for that matter fielded an all foreign team that would annoy me. To me the importance of a English spine or local spine (however you choose to word it), is one of the bits I identify with and I find it very important. A club with all Italian, French or whatever, wouldn't trigger the same connection to me. Some things in football transcends the more material aspects. There's a lot more to football than just being good at getting three points. In the same sense it's an entertainment industry, where the type of football being played matters, it's also an entertainment industry anchored in local history, values, families, feelings etc. When you create an all foreign 11 you lose some of what makes it magical to those who loves, lives and breaths the sport locally. But maybe I am old fashioned and alone in this. It depends on the situation, if Villa were challenging with 16 Portuguese in the squad I dont think anybody would care. But if they were shit people would be up in arms calling them mercenarles. If Wolves were in bottom 3 then the idiots like Stelling etc be demanding a manager with passion and a true british spine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Andy81 said: Our Portuguese players have bought into Wolves much more than most of the British players we've had for decades before. We have more of a connection with this squad than any I can remember, the only one that comes close to me would be the 08/09 promotion squad. But Big Mick was the better manager he would have no issue dropping Neves or Moutinho for Karl Henry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, Zatman said: It depends on the situation, if Villa were challenging with 16 Portuguese in the squad I dont think anybody would care. But if they were shit people would be up in arms calling them mercenarles. If Wolves were in bottom 3 then the idiots like Stelling etc be demanding a manager with passion and a true british spine That's the thing. Personally I would. Football is about more than winning. A club in Brum with a long and proud history, families have gone to the stands with friends through a hundred years and suddenly everyone on the team communicates in Portuguese. Not for me. Hell, I remember playing football manager years ago, and I actively signed mediocre English players so the squad look more like I wanted it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: That's the thing. Personally I would. Football is about more than winning. A club in Brum with a long and proud history, families have gone to the stands with friends through a hundred years and suddenly everyone on the team communicates in Portuguese. Not for me. Hell, I remember playing football manager years ago, and I actively signed mediocre English players so the squad look more like I wanted it to. Who cares if a player is called Matthew Smith Or Mathias Silva? They represent the club, Villa could have a Vietnamese starting 11 for all I care as long as they were good players. Football is about more than winning, but nationality of players is not included in "more". Edited September 24, 2020 by Mic09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Who cares if a player is called Matthew Smith Or Mathias Silva? They represent the club, Villa could have a Vietnamese starting 11 for all I care as long as they were good players. Football is about more than winning, but nationality of players is not included in "more". People are different I guess. I'd never travel to watch us play with an all 11 Spanish squad or whatever. Just soulless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I don't blame them.....quality is quality. They are serious players in the transfer market, if we were doing similar I wouldn't care! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 21 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Maybe in a few years half of the population of Wolverhampton will have Portuguese ancestry Pretty sure Gabby will see this as a challenge. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I do like it when we have Brummies doing well at the club. Aside from that an English person from elsewhere and someone from abroad is much of a muchness to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: People are different I guess. I'd never travel to watch us play with an all 11 Spanish squad or whatever. Just soulless. I mean, I know as a nation they might eat a lot of Jamón but they're not like, vampires. Edited September 24, 2020 by GarethRDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted September 24, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 For all this, I absolutely understand why you all love Grealish. Player from the area, fan of the club, with a (great?) grandfather who also played for the club. Similar to why we love Bully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 The Bullseye mascot? I was always more of a Mr. Chips, fan myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy81 Posted September 24, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, GarethRDR said: The Bullseye mascot? I was always more of a Mr. Chips, fan myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 13 hours ago, Andy81 said: Our Portuguese players have bought into Wolves much more than most of the British players we've had for decades before. We have more of a connection with this squad than any I can remember, the only one that comes close to me would be the 08/09 promotion squad. Remember signing Roger Johnson that summer caused your dressing room to go toxic and finished off Mick's spell. Think you had a few others you couldn't shift after relegation like Jamie O'Hara. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 hours ago, KenjiOgiwara said: That's the thing. Personally I would. Football is about more than winning. A club in Brum with a long and proud history, families have gone to the stands with friends through a hundred years and suddenly everyone on the team communicates in Portuguese. Not for me. Hell, I remember playing football manager years ago, and I actively signed mediocre English players so the squad look more like I wanted it to. Do you mean homegrown youth products or just bog standard journeyman players like Shorey and Harewood? Ever since I've been following the club since mid 90s we've always promoted young players (Hendrie, Vassell and Barry were all breaking into the squad at the time) every few years so that's something I wouldn't want broken. Had a dry spell in last five but hopefully Jacob Ramsey can lead the next generation coming up. However Shorey or Harewood or good quality foreign talent, tough choice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mykeyb Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 24/09/2020 at 07:39, Andy81 said: Our Portuguese players have bought into Wolves much more than most of the British players we've had for decades before. We have more of a connection with this squad than any I can remember, the only one that comes close to me would be the 08/09 promotion squad. I will have a bet that if this form continues you will get some Wolves fans questioning why you haven't bought more British talent.....as they understand this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, mykeyb said: I will have a bet that if this form continues you will get some Wolves fans questioning why you haven't bought more British talent.....as they understand this league. In fairness will be idiots like Stelling(maybe Tony Pulis is better than Nuno) more than fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 What a shocking result. Bet nobody had that set of results today. Spuds drawing, City and Wolves getting shat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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