punkiller1981 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 With Phillips gone raphina all but gone with a side that for the most part last season I thought were pathetic especially when Phillips wasn’t there I really am surprised that people think this has been a good window for them. I think it looks disastrous for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, punkiller1981 said: With Phillips gone raphina all but gone with a side that for the most part last season I thought were pathetic especially when Phillips wasn’t there I really am surprised that people think this has been a good window for them. I think it looks disastrous for them They seem to be replacing them with £10-20 million players from Austria, Belgium etc. As we've found out, players absolutely tearing apart those leagues often struggle in the PL. They must be 3/4 favourites for the drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, pas5898 said: They seem to be replacing them with £10-20 million players from Austria, Belgium etc. As we've found out, players absolutely tearing apart those leagues often struggle in the PL. They must be 3/4 favourites for the drop. I think they could be in massive trouble. This could end up with us when we signed all those french players. Good players but as a unit it just didnt work at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I think they could be in massive trouble. This could end up with us when we signed all those french players. Good players but as a unit it just didnt work at all I hope so. Leeds getting 17 points or less would be absolutely delightful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted July 4, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: I think they could be in massive trouble. This could end up with us when we signed all those french players. Good players but as a unit it just didnt work at all Very different player profiles mind. These are internationals with Europa/Champions League experience. It's obviously a gamble but it's not the same thing. I think we can come out of this an overall stronger team. Phillips was hugely important to us but not because he was the best DM in world football, it was because we had nobody who could do anything like his job and under Bielsa it was the most important role in the team, when he was out we were crap. At this point we're probably better selling so we can improve. Obviously I'd have rather he stayed but what can you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Very different player profiles mind. These are internationals with Europa/Champions League experience. It's obviously a gamble but it's not the same thing. How much of an impact do you think playing in the Europa/Champions League has on a player compared to the coaching etc that they go through? CL/EL experience seems to be a massively overstated plus point. I reckon it has barely any relevance to a players' performance (even if they all want to play in those competitions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted July 4, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, bobzy said: How much of an impact do you think playing in the Europa/Champions League has on a player compared to the coaching etc that they go through? CL/EL experience seems to be a massively overstated plus point. I reckon it has barely any relevance to a players' performance (even if they all want to play in those competitions). Yeah you're right, but comparing the players you signed in the past to this isn't the same. Aaronson was laying off the opener against Bayern Munich in the CL in February. I don't so much think the experience is what's valuable but these are players that have competed well at that level already so there's at least a foundation there to believe the step up won't overwhelm them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The season we went down we had signed Ayew, Amavi, Adama, Veretout, and Gueye, Leeds will be doing well if the players they sign have the careers that those players have had and are having. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Gueye and Ayew had been playing in the CL and international football before joining us, too. Let's hope the parallels continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, Rino8 said: Very different player profiles mind. These are internationals with Europa/Champions League experience. It's obviously a gamble but it's not the same thing. I think we can come out of this an overall stronger team. Phillips was hugely important to us but not because he was the best DM in world football, it was because we had nobody who could do anything like his job and under Bielsa it was the most important role in the team, when he was out we were crap. At this point we're probably better selling so we can improve. Obviously I'd have rather he stayed but what can you do Amavi, gana veretout were highly rated players and some actually had played in europe. It might not happen but i think its a massive ask for one of them to do what phillips did for you. Same for raphina. We all said the same when we sold grealish and we signed some high profile players and found it extremely difficult in periods of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 We were in the gutter when we signed those players, rotten from top to bottom, I bet even our cleaning lady did a half assed job of it, doesn't matter who managed us or who we signed we were going down and it was the old English "pros" who did it not our new signings who the media wanted to label as inexperienced not good enough and too foreign I think Leeds have some rumblings over their ownership but nothing like the shite we had 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 55 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Gueye and Ayew had been playing in the CL and international football before joining us, too. Let's hope the parallels continue. Richards and Lescott too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, Zatman said: Richards and Lescott too Never heard of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Note the stark difference in Kalvin Phillips goodbye letter to Leeds, and the " See ya " social media post from the bloke who so many on here still adore. Edited July 4, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 If Grealish had have written the goodbye letter that Phillips has supposedly written, he would have been lambasted for it with people telling him that he should just keep his mouth shut and not saying anything blah blah, and in a way I would have agreed with them as just comes across as an empty PR move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, useless said: If Grealish had have written the goodbye letter that Phillips has supposedly written, he would have been lambasted for it with people telling him that he should just keep his mouth shut and not saying anything blah blah, and in a way I would have agreed with them as just comes across as an empty PR move. Yeah fans were angry, no matter what grealish said some would have had a issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah fans were angry, no matter what grealish said some would have had a issue with it. To be fair, he stuck to his word when he signed a new contract and said he saw the project and wanted to stay cos he believed in it. Demanding a release clause was obviously an accident by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Have Leeds opened up Football Manager to determine their new signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Ted Lasso got a huge job on his hands getting all these new players to click. Will either go spectacularly well and they finish top 8 or they go down. I can't see any middle ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Leeds gonna be exciting to watch next season. Could go either way for them. Bit like last years crystal palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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