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wasnt happy when he signed BUT

 

Vlaar is no McGrath, Laursen or even Mellberg or Dunne but he is better than a lot of other crap we had over last few seasons in defence. Last year was tough for him as he had an injury and was babysitting Clark for most of season. He did OK nothing spectacular but no coincidence we look better with him in the team.

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We do look toothless without him in the side, but he is'nt a 'one-man- team. He needs a decent CB alongside him to bring out the best in him. We just can't expect him single-handedly to do the job.

 

I hope Okore is it?

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He's got a long way to go before he's even as good as somebody like Zat Knight.

 

Do you actually believe what you have written? For instance, if you could, would you swap Vlaar for Knight? Genuinely interested.

 

I think Zat Knight is one of the most error-prone defenders to ever play in the Premiership, let alone play for us.

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He's got a long way to go before he's even as good as somebody like Zat Knight

What the... I don't even... Wow.

I must be thinking of the wrong guy.

Knight and Vlaar are probably on a par in terms of ability

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How many games that he played in did we manage to keep a clean sheet in?  Not all his fault of course, but he hardly led by example.  He was rubbish at marking, positionally poor and crap in the air, and he's not very quick either. 

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How many games that he played in did we manage to keep a clean sheet in?  Not all his fault of course, but he hardly led by example.  He was rubbish at marking, positionally poor and crap in the air, and he's not very quick either.

I agree with all of this. Personally i think he is dodgy at best. He is the first centre half I have ever seen who ducks corners too. Whats that all about?

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He's got a long way to go before he's even as good as somebody like Zat Knight

What the... I don't even... Wow.

I must be thinking of the wrong guy.

Knight and Vlaar are probably on a par in terms of ability

 

 

Then why is one getting into the Netherlands squad and the other playing in a mid-table Championship side?

A gif of Zat from Bolton's pre-season game the other night.

 

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At what stage does an opinion cross over into PFE? :D

If it's a genuinely held opinion then by definition it is never PFE.
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Vlaar was a bit of a let down last season. Of course we looked better when he came back because we were playing the likes of Herd in defence. The protection Guzan had and the defence as a unit was nothing short of awful last year.

Thankfully lambert has tried to solve this and Luna and okore should help improve us. Hopefully a more solid unit will see the best out of Vlaar.

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I think Vlaar will surprise some of you (in a good way) next season. I think some don't appreciate the circumstances he was thrown into last season while acclimatising himself.

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Then why is one getting into the Netherlands squad and the other playing in a mid-table Championship side?

It's because Zat isn't eligible to play for the Netherlands of course. If Zat Knight was Dutch, he'd have captained them to World and European glory.

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Zat Knight is also 33 now. 

 

Vlaar playing for Holland is irrelevant to me.  Emile Heskey was a regular for England, but was the crappest so-called striker I've seen for a long time at Villa.

 

I hope last season can just be put down to first season syndrome, and that he comes good this year, but there's no point pretending he wasn't rubbish.  He was.

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Zat Knight is also 33 now. 

 

Vlaar playing for Holland is irrelevant to me.  Emile Heskey was a regular for England, but was the crappest so-called striker I've seen for a long time at Villa.

 

I hope last season can just be put down to first season syndrome, and that he comes good this year, but there's no point pretending he wasn't rubbish.  He was.

 

You're right. He was rubbish and the rest of us are all pretending.

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Zat Knight is also 33 now. 

 

Vlaar playing for Holland is irrelevant to me.  Emile Heskey was a regular for England, but was the crappest so-called striker I've seen for a long time at Villa.

 

I hope last season can just be put down to first season syndrome, and that he comes good this year, but there's no point pretending he wasn't rubbish.  He was.

 

I don't often disagree with you pal but I'm going to on this one or at least on part of it.

 

I agree, that he plays for Holland is irrelevant to me and in my opinion to any discussion about him as a player for Aston Villa.

 

I don't though think he was rubbish last season. We've been blessed with CB's down the years at Villa pretty much for the last 20 years, we've had some truly excellent players. In fact I'd argue that we've had as good a CB's during that period as anyone in the league and far better than we've had a in any other position.

 

In that context Vlaar does fall short, he isn't up there with Lauren, Mellberg, Southgate, McGrath or many of the other names you could pick from the list. He isn't as good as those sort of players, not even close if we are honest.

 

He isn't though terrible, he is a decent but not spectacular CB which when you spend £3m is always likely to be what you will get.

 

I would though point to our form prior to his injury and once he returned in comparison to our form when he was missing. Now it isn't all down to him, there were many other factors not least the return of Gabby at the end of the season but it does appear that Vlaar had a positive impact upon our results.

 

Could we get a better CB? Well there are certainly better ones around but with the budget afforded to Lambert by Lerner I'm not so sure we could sign one.

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