ryanvilla_1994 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I'm sure I saw moose on twitter saying West Ham we're after Kaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I don't want Andy Carroll or his like....it encourages " hoof Ball" and I want to see the passing game return to our park. Its not passing for passing sake that I like to see because that can be as boring....Its passing with purpose and effect. I don't agree at all. If you have a target man, it gives you an extra dimension up front and a different way of attacking - it doesn't mean that you're going to hoof it up front and not pass the ball or build up the play, it just means that when you're in the final third you have an aerial threat as well as on the ground. There's nothing wrong with players like that if they're used correctly and having different attacking options is a big benefit - if you're one dimensional then you're a lot easier to defend against. Even Wenger has realised this and bought Giroud. as I said...."encourages" I seem to recall John Carew saying on one occasion "I like to receive the ball on the floor, but I rarely do , they play the ball in the air to me" which I am not used to. I take your point in theory, but it rarely happens in practice. You play a big man up front, you get the resulting style. I just happen to suspect that player may be a bit of a dinosaur in todays modern game.... as much as I admired them over the years. PS For the older ones bumped in to Tony Hateley a little while ago , look in great fettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I don't want Andy Carroll or his like....it encourages " hoof Ball" and I want to see the passing game return to our park. Its not passing for passing sake that I like to see because that can be as boring....Its passing with purpose and effect. I don't agree at all. If you have a target man, it gives you an extra dimension up front and a different way of attacking - it doesn't mean that you're going to hoof it up front and not pass the ball or build up the play, it just means that when you're in the final third you have an aerial threat as well as on the ground. There's nothing wrong with players like that if they're used correctly and having different attacking options is a big benefit - if you're one dimensional then you're a lot easier to defend against. Even Wenger has realised this and bought Giroud. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyvillan Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 PS For the older ones bumped in to Tony Hateley a little while ago , look in great fettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I think we're third on Carrolls' list behind Newcastle and Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted July 29, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 29, 2012 god no please dont come to villa complete waste of a football jersey - a complete and utter donkey, good for nothing other than using as a battering ram. He's a remnant fossil of an aspect of the game that no longer exists and for the benefit of the sport. Graham Taylor MKI would have loved him but he's not a modern day footballer and never will be. Give me gabby over this guy every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I don't want Andy Carroll or his like....it encourages " hoof Ball" and I want to see the passing game return to our park. Its not passing for passing sake that I like to see because that can be as boring....Its passing with purpose and effect. I don't agree at all. If you have a target man, it gives you an extra dimension up front and a different way of attacking - it doesn't mean that you're going to hoof it up front and not pass the ball or build up the play, it just means that when you're in the final third you have an aerial threat as well as on the ground. There's nothing wrong with players like that if they're used correctly and having different attacking options is a big benefit - if you're one dimensional then you're a lot easier to defend against. Even Wenger has realised this and bought Giroud. as I said...."encourages" I seem to recall John Carew saying on one occasion "I like to receive the ball on the floor, but I rarely do , they play the ball in the air to me" which I am not used to. I take your point in theory, but it rarely happens in practice. You play a big man up front, you get the resulting style. I just happen to suspect that player may be a bit of a dinosaur in todays modern game.... as much as I admired them over the years. PS For the older ones bumped in to Tony Hateley a little while ago , look in great fettle. I don't agree - did Norwich play hoofball with Holt up front last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 29, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 29, 2012 I think we're third on Carrolls' list behind Newcastle and Milan. Think logically and you'll see Newcastle aren't on his radar AT ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 bickster Think logically and you'll see Newcastle aren't on his radar AT ALL Because he wants to stay at Anfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 30, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2012 bickster Think logically and you'll see Newcastle aren't on his radar AT ALL Because he wants to stay at Anfield? No, for this reason, plus the obvious footballing ones Looks like hes either going to stay put or move abroad then as I can't see a side in Europe this season wanting him, especially Newcastle Why don't you think Newcastle are interested? Regardless of any footballing reasons (of which there are quite a few) he has too much personal stuff hanging over him in Newcastle, if he needs a 24 hour guard outside his house in Liverpool because of it, the threat is clearly still there. Moving back to Newcastle is only going to amplify that tenfold and also lead him back into the drinking culture he seems to have left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 30, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2012 So what is this issue hanging over him back in Newcastle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic_bouma Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 So what is this issue hanging over him back in Newcastle? I think it was more a case of his todger "hanging" over his team mates girlfriends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 30, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2012 One year loan deal to West Ham with fee agreed at the end of the season, in talks now, according to Radio Newcastle. Got that from a Sunderland forum. Probably bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Ian Dennis of BBC Radio5 Live is saying much of the same thing. Reporting a £2 million loan deal for this season and a further £17 million for a permanent transfer if West Ham stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Great news, didn't want him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Ok. Firstly, I thought Carroll was meant to want European football. And secondly where the frick have West Ham got that sort of money from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Ok. Firstly, I thought Carroll was meant to want European football. And secondly where the frick have West Ham got that sort of money from? Razzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 The oaf probably does want European football but few teams want him. He'll suit Big Sam's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 30, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 30, 2012 Good player but he isn't worth that, Liverpool are so lucky to be getting that back on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Wow. Twitter going nuts over this, Big Sam signing all over to be fair. Although, won't believe it till it's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts