wiggyrichard Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Carroll, the England international, has been targeted by his former club for a surprise return to his native North East, with Newcastle making the offer on Saturday, 18 months after selling him for £35 million. Brendan Rodgers, the new Liverpool manager, appeared to publicly clear Carroll for a transfer away from the club last week and Alan Pardew made his move over the weekend, in an attempt to head off interest from West Ham, Aston Villa and AC Milan. The offer was believed to have been a loan arrangement for the season, with Newcastle also proposing a permanent transfer next summer of around £12 million up front in a lump sum. Newcastle’s move had been agreed by Mike Ashley, who controversially sold him two seasons ago, and the chairman is to provide Pardew with substantial backing as they prepare to participate in the Europa League next season. Pardew is facing an anxious fortnight to discover if a rival club will trigger a £7 million escape clause in Demba Ba’s contract and is keen to add more firepower to his squad. But Liverpool are not interested in sending Carroll out on loan, and are even more reluctant to offload him to Newcastle after paying such a significant fee to sign him in January 2011. Liverpool were refusing to comment on the offer last night but it is understood they will only sanction a permanent deal. Newcastle’s offer was also understood to be minimal, paying only a small portion of his wages, and was laughed off by Liverpool’s owners – but is unlikely to be the final offer made by Ashley in this transfer window. Newcastle are expected to return with a cut-price bid towards the end of the window, in the hope of forcing Liverpool’s hand and tempting Carroll into making an emotional return to his hometown. Carroll, who is on holiday after being granted extra leave by Rodgers after appearing at Euro 2012, is said to have been surprised by the tone of the Ulsterman’s comments last week but sources close to him insist he still believes he can salvage his career on Merseyside. The 23 year-old has only managed six Premier League goals in 42 appearances since leaving St James' Park and his future with Liverpool appears even more in doubt after Rodgers completed the £7 million signing of Fabio Borini from Roma last week. But the prospect of an heroic return to his first club is certain to be tempting, especially if first-team opportunities appear limited under his new manager. He must also consider whether he can afford to take the risk of staying at Liverpool and possibly falling further down the pecking order in Roy Hodgson’s England squad if he is out of the picture with his club. Carroll recovered from a disappointing campaign to shine in the final weeks of the season and also impressed in England’s 3-2 win over Sweden, scoring a trademark header in the first half. Other Premier League clubs including Villa are monitoring Carroll’s situation. Villa have made tentative contact in the past few days and Paul Lambert, the manager, refused to rule out a move for the forward after the 2-1 friendly win over Burton on Saturday. He said: “If we could get him it would be great. He’s a top player, there’s no doubt. It wouldn’t be one I would dismiss if we could get him.” Sam Allardyce, the West Ham manager, also retains an interest but has declared he has doubts over whether he could sign him on loan. There is also interest from abroad but Newcastle are the first club to make a concrete offer. Carroll returns from holiday on Wednesday but will not meet up with the Liverpool squad in Boston until next week, together with the rest of the players who featured in Poland and Ukraine. The Telegraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 he has only had 6 good months in premier league. though i would take him for the reason that he isnt Emile HEskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Carroll is 23, he's a massive threat in the air and on his day is unplayable. In all honesty I'd say he could be worth the gamble. Maybe offer £15m + incentives (i.e so many league goals / appearances, international goals etc...) He does have a massive upside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Bad move. Stay far away, he's trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 17, 2012 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'm with Dante on this. Carroll would be a superb addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Meh, given our apparent lack of transfer funds I think it (12-15 mil+) could be better spent elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Another overrated Englishman. Worth 10 million tops. Prob buy two fantastic strikers overseas for that price. Ba and cisse.... Keep looking Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If we still had funds for other areas of the squad after spending £15million on Carroll (which I highly doubt) then go for it, he'd be a great addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 17, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2012 Where has anybody anywhere said there's a lack of transfer funds?! Seems to me PL has spent wisely so far and there's money there if he wants it, which has always been the case since Lerner took over. As for Carroll could be class, I think I'd be willing to take the risk on him, I quite like him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Carroll in would surely guarantee Gabby out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc123cox Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 100% yes for Carroll! but i'm sure he'll end up at Newcastle or a London team i.e West Ham or QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 17, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2012 The "only ITK you can trust" said we only have 8million quid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I am sick of lazy troublemakers at Villa, therefore I don't want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If I was a betting man I would say that If he is to leave Liverpool this summer then he will end up back at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudoz Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I would be very surprised if he came here. I know they're biased but the majority of the reports in the NE state he wants to return to Newcastle. Carrol and Bent upfront would be tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He's to busy stranded at sea trying to get back on the VillaTalk yacht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 17, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2012 West Ham won't pay 15m for him, and can't see him going to QPR. Villa would be a good move for him, but if he has the choice of here or Newcastle there's only going to be one winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Carroll + Bent = Goals...and lots of'um! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 He would be very popular at the Villa and he would sell a lot of shirts. He is a "star" already, but not because of his ability. He has talent and he gets double marking all the time, but he is not a goalscorer and he is lousy with the ball in his feet. Not a very smart player, but could work out nicely for a club which is trying to break top 10 like ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I'd rather we try to lure Adam Johnson away from Ci£y with the £15M instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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