TorqueLimit Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 If there was a formal request to speak to any other PL or Championship or La Liga or Serie A or Bundesliga manager who is under contract we would know that not from Villa's end but from the other club's end. It leaks out no matter how discrete Villa may want the process to be. It's hard to keep those things quiet. Then the club keeps suggesting to local press that they are okay with how things are progressing? That they are working on it?None of it adds up. It does add up - they are simply waiting on Liverpool to see who they pick before picking up the leftovers. Sadly, I agree. No matter how many journos state that we aren't waiting on Liverpool. I believe we are. I think we want Martinez but Liverpool is obviously a more attractive proposition for him so we're waiting on that. I agree that we are waiting, but I am not sure that the Liverpool job is necessarily a better job for Martinez than the Villa job. IMO the Liverpool job is even more of a poision challace than the villa job at the moment. The fans didn't want a new manager, the board expect top 4 just to keep your job, even if you win a trophy FFS!! Also if reports are to be believed he will be working under a DOF, and will only have responsibility for the 1st team. You want a 12 month job where you dont get a say in your squad?? With us he would enjoy the fans support (certainly bigger support than at Liverpool), he would be given control of football matters accross the club, and whilst he would have financial constraints, HE would get to choose which players to sell and buy! Having said that I dont think Randy will even talk to him until he we find out if he is going to take the L'pool job!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMattyOnline Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 According to SSN Liverpool have made an offer to Martinez. No details yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Glad to see the OGS thing fell through - always seemed to me like he was over-hyped and some people got carried away with it all. Keeping my fingers crossed for a decent appointment like Lambert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 25, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2012 Please let this clear the way for Villa's-Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Please let this clear the way for Villa's-Boss. Lets hope soo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Please let this clear the way for Villa's-Boss. or Michael Laudrup, Bernd Schneider, someone else competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 25, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2012 The suggestion appears to be that even if Martinez has been offered the job, he's not taking it instantly and will hold further talks next week... therefore it's going to rumble on a bit longer, which is annoying if it has any bearing on our search. At very least you can guarentee that it's going to mean he's still going to be murmured as a target for us until he signs on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 If there was a formal request to speak to any other PL or Championship or La Liga or Serie A or Bundesliga manager who is under contract we would know that not from Villa's end but from the other club's end. It leaks out no matter how discrete Villa may want the process to be. It's hard to keep those things quiet. Then the club keeps suggesting to local press that they are okay with how things are progressing? That they are working on it?None of it adds up. It does add up - they are simply waiting on Liverpool to see who they pick before picking up the leftovers. Sadly, I agree. No matter how many journos state that we aren't waiting on Liverpool. I believe we are. I think we want Martinez but Liverpool is obviously a more attractive proposition for him so we're waiting on that. I agree that we are waiting, but I am not sure that the Liverpool job is necessarily a better job for Martinez than the Villa job. IMO the Liverpool job is even more of a poision challace than the villa job at the moment. The fans didn't want a new manager, the board expect top 4 just to keep your job, even if you win a trophy FFS!! Also if reports are to be believed he will be working under a DOF, and will only have responsibility for the 1st team. You want a 12 month job where you dont get a say in your squad?? With us he would enjoy the fans support (certainly bigger support than at Liverpool), he would be given control of football matters accross the club, and whilst he would have financial constraints, HE would get to choose which players to sell and buy! Having said that I dont think Randy will even talk to him until he we find out if he is going to take the L'pool job!!. Or another way of looking at it, we havent heard anything from another club about an approach because Villa are going after someone who is not with a team such as BENITEZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Please let this clear the way for Villa's-Boss. yeh, hoping this might be the case, VB agent said they looking for a project, villa certainly could be classed as that with the state we've been in for the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Hearing rumours Martinez will knock Liverpool back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 25, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2012 Hearing rumours Martinez will knock Liverpool back I am now immune to sentences that start "Hearing rumours" :nod: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 25, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 25, 2012 Please let this clear the way for Villa's-Boss. yeh, hoping this might be the case, VB agent said they looking for a project, villa certainly could be classed as that with the state we've been in for the last 2 years. I really really really hope this is the case. Very unlikely IMO. I think he'd be a great fit for us and would be given time to build. I just can't see RL giving him the funds he'd want to improve the squad. There's so much change that needs to happen it's going to cost a fair wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I still believe Martinez will stay at Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Liverpool are going to become a bigger car crash than they are now. Every season the owners don't get CL football they chalk up another £30m into the "lost revenue" pile. In ten years time I can only imagine they'll be blaming everyone under the sun for being £300m short and realising that football is rarely going to make you rich (I think only the Glazers are likely to walk away from the PL with more than they started with). If we, as a club, are waiting for their cast-offs then god help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I still believe Martinez will stay at Wigan Not sure which is funnier, Martinez as Wigan manager or Mantinez turning Liverpool down. Either way the next few days will be fun on RAWK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Chelsea were generally quite dull when Wilkins coached them Yea I remember when they beat us 7v1 and I was thinking how **** dull they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorqueLimit Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 If there was a formal request to speak to any other PL or Championship or La Liga or Serie A or Bundesliga manager who is under contract we would know that not from Villa's end but from the other club's end. It leaks out no matter how discrete Villa may want the process to be. It's hard to keep those things quiet. Then the club keeps suggesting to local press that they are okay with how things are progressing? That they are working on it?None of it adds up. It does add up - they are simply waiting on Liverpool to see who they pick before picking up the leftovers. Sadly, I agree. No matter how many journos state that we aren't waiting on Liverpool. I believe we are. I think we want Martinez but Liverpool is obviously a more attractive proposition for him so we're waiting on that. I agree that we are waiting, but I am not sure that the Liverpool job is necessarily a better job for Martinez than the Villa job. IMO the Liverpool job is even more of a poision challace than the villa job at the moment. The fans didn't want a new manager, the board expect top 4 just to keep your job, even if you win a trophy FFS!! Also if reports are to be believed he will be working under a DOF, and will only have responsibility for the 1st team. You want a 12 month job where you dont get a say in your squad?? With us he would enjoy the fans support (certainly bigger support than at Liverpool), he would be given control of football matters accross the club, and whilst he would have financial constraints, HE would get to choose which players to sell and buy! Having said that I dont think Randy will even talk to him until he we find out if he is going to take the L'pool job!!. Or another way of looking at it, we havent heard anything from another club about an approach because Villa are going after someone who is not with a team such as BENITEZ. This is true, I just think that Martinez is the man Randy had in mind. He wanted him last year, I understand that he didnt even speak to Villa last year, he just said that he wanted to honor his 3 year commitment to Wigan. Apart from McWhatwasithinkingwheniappointedhim Randy has appeared to want to change the way we play after MON. GED, Martinez, even the brolly man to an extent. I just hope that either your right and we in for someone else, or he has a plan C thats not Mad Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 25, 2012 Moderator Share Posted May 25, 2012 It'll be RAWKous. There. I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 If Martinez to knock them back and come to us ...well that would be some nice PR for once .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 good i dont want martinez apoor appointment for a club size of liverpool if he takes it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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