villa4europe Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, The Fun Factory said: Yes but most managers have not been as lucky as Pep to inherit a legendary squad at Barcelona, and massive buying power at his next two clubs. He has never really had the worry of trying to fit square pegs into round holes, or to manage another season or two out of ageing legs. That's not really true though, look at what he did at barca, bombed off some of the best aging legs in europe and brought through a young team His first summer and subsequent turn around at barca doesn't get anywhere near the respect it deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: That's not really true though, look at what he did at barca, bombed off some of the best aging legs in europe and brought through a young team His first summer and subsequent turn around at barca doesn't get anywhere near the respect it deserves So Xavi, Messi and iniesta were not already there? It would have been the equivalent in a alternative universe in Sir Redface leaving united in 1995, and Steve Bruce getting the job. Well sort of. Edited October 24, 2020 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, The Fun Factory said: So Xavi, Messi and iniesta were not already there? Along with Ronaldinho, deco, zambrotta, thuram, edmilson... He promoted busquets, bought in pique and alves He did exactly as barca need to do right now but instead they're handing pique a new deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: So Xavi, Messi and iniesta were not already there? It would have been the equivalent in a alternative universe in Sir Redface leaving united in 1995, and Steve Bruce getting the job. Well sort of. Elmo was only 8 in 1995. Bruce would have struggled to get him in the utd team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 We should make a January move for DeBruyne, who will want to move to a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) Guardiola gets away with murder, as the genius of football he has 2 Champions Leagues from probably the greatest club team ever, then he took over a brilliant Bayern and brought them backwards. Luckily he took over the richest club in Europe and was outperformed by Pellegrini in Champions League Absolute fraud, not sure he has ever improved a defensive player. I think Klopp is a prick but he at least improves players Edited October 24, 2020 by Zatman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 The pep time warp is back... Was hoping he'd go at least a couple of months before a bad result and the nonsense came up again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The pep time warp is back... Was hoping he'd go at least a couple of months before a bad result and the nonsense came up again nearly 20 points behind Liverpool last season and already dropped points to Leicester, Leeds and West Ham this season. Hardly playing the big guns yet, even Wolves showed the weaknesses. Pep needs to get his act together, poor transfers but without De Bruyne, Davud Silva and Aguero. City are quite average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 25, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 25, 2020 12 hours ago, Zatman said: Guardiola gets away with murder, as the genius of football he has 2 Champions Leagues from probably the greatest club team ever, then he took over a brilliant Bayern and brought them backwards. Luckily he took over the richest club in Europe and was outperformed by Pellegrini in Champions League Absolute fraud, not sure he has ever improved a defensive player. I think Klopp is a prick but he at least improves players With you other than the fraud line which I always disagree with, he is so over rated it’s untrue but he isn’t a fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 hours ago, TrentVilla said: With you other than the fraud line which I always disagree with, he is so over rated it’s untrue but he isn’t a fraud. Yes fraud is totally the wrong word. He hasn't delivered as many champions leagues as he should but hes still a top manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Pep signed new 2 yr deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Pep signed new 2 yr deal Maybe Messi is coming in January 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, PaulC said: Maybe Messi is coming in January I hope so, they can forget all about Grealish then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, It's Your Round said: I hope so, they can forget all about Grealish then. Yes and I would like to see Messi in the Premier League. Grealish vs Messi when we play them that will be good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, PaulC said: Yes and I would like to see Messi in the Premier League. Grealish vs Messi when we play them that will be good. It would be interesting to see if Messi can handle the proverbial wet Wednesday in Smethwick. I’m sure he’d be a success here, as long as he accepts his position behind Jack, then fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I thought he'd be off and primed to take the Juve job. They'll continue to play well under him but the whole project just seems a bit stagnant at the minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Only a 2 year contract though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 51 minutes ago, PaulC said: Maybe Messi is coming in January It wouldn't surprise me. Barcalona are broke and Messi will leave on a free at the end of the season. Might be better to get something for him now and get the wages off the books rather than wait 6 months and lose him for nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Yes good news if it means Messi is coming to England. Improves my chances of getting to see him live before he retires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, LondonLax said: It wouldn't surprise me. Barcalona are broke and Messi will leave on a free at the end of the season. Might be better to get something for him now and get the wages off the books rather than wait 6 months and lose him for nothing. I bet Barca still get circa €100m for him in Jan. Obviously he’ll be expensive for wages but for some reason it’s not the super stupid numbers banded around in the Summer. Will Man City move anyone on to balance the books a bit? Edited November 19, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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