RedBullDelfouneso Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Overreactions. He played well enough. Had a nice shot. Went forward well in the second half. This was as bad a defensive performance as I've seen. 'Getting forward well' is not a positive when you then don't get back quick enough, leaving us exposed to counter attacks. He is very poor in all defensive areas and needs to be loaned out to improve, he'll cost us too much in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'm sorry but just because he had 1 good shot on goal, we can't excuse his poor defensive play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 This was as bad a defensive performance as I've seen. 'Getting forward well' is not a positive when you then don't get back quick enough, leaving us exposed to counter attacks. He is very poor in all defensive areas and needs to be loaned out to improve, he'll cost us too much in the Premier League. Agree with this, I like your name too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hello .. I think Stevens must starts next games he's doing a good job when playing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForfarVillan Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hello .. I think Stevens must starts next games he's doing a good job when playing ! you can't mean that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 well between him Bennett and Lichaj he has looked the stronger defensively. Which doesnt say much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Everyone who we have that can play left back are terrible there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDelfouneso Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) well between him Bennett and Lichaj he has looked the stronger defensively. Which doesnt say much Lichaj is better at LB. Bennett and Stevens should not play in the first team again this season, there has to be a better alternative. I'd just play Benteke there and pump him full of steriods and caffeine so he tears the winger a new ar5ehole every time he touches the ball, that should do it... Edited January 15, 2013 by RedBullDelfouneso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Lichaj hasnt looked any better either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 This was as bad a defensive performance as I've seen. 'Getting forward well' is not a positive when you then don't get back quick enough, leaving us exposed to counter attacks. He is very poor in all defensive areas and needs to be loaned out to improve, he'll cost us too much in the Premier League. Well, i thought he did well enough. We also had 4 strikers in the second half, and fullbacks are meant to go forward and central midfielders are meant to cover them. When there is no cover and no winger, you can hardly blame the fullback for it. I think you guys are asking for a Roberto Carlos, but unfortunaltely he wont come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDelfouneso Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well, i thought he did well enough. We also had 4 strikers in the second half, and fullbacks are meant to go forward and central midfielders are meant to cover them. When there is no cover and no winger, you can hardly blame the fullback for it. I think you guys are asking for a Roberto Carlos, but unfortunaltely he wont come. I'm thinking particularly of the first half, when Puncheon ripped him apart. I was sat L5 and was about 5m from him as he backed off continuously, allowing Puncheon/Lambert/Rodriguez turn him inside and out and get a shot/cross away. Also, if there is no cover then it is the full back's responsibility to defend first and foremost, not bomb on and then when they get exposed say "well there was no winger to cover me". That's called having a tactical football brain. I'm sorry for being so forceful in my opinion but if you think Stevens did well against Southampton then you must know very little about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I would play Clarke at LB now Vlaar is back to partner Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hello .. you can't mean that Well .. I mean it considering the choices we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'm thinking particularly of the first half, when Puncheon ripped him apart. I was sat L5 and was about 5m from him as he backed off continuously, allowing Puncheon/Lambert/Rodriguez turn him inside and out and get a shot/cross away. Also, if there is no cover then it is the full back's responsibility to defend first and foremost, not bomb on and then when they get exposed say "well there was no winger to cover me". That's called having a tactical football brain. I'm sorry for being so forceful in my opinion but if you think Stevens did well against Southampton then you must know very little about football Don't be rude. I know my football. Stevens was either told to go forward or stay back. He obviously went forward well, so i guess he would have been subbed if Lambert did not want him to do that. You guys overreact like someone got murdered. He did a good job, especially in the second half. If the whole team defended well, he would not have been exposed like he did. Maybe you should take a lesson in football tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDelfouneso Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Don't be rude. I know my football. Stevens was either told to go forward or stay back. He obviously went forward well, so i guess he would have been subbed if Lambert did not want him to do that. You guys overreact like someone got murdered. He did a good job, especially in the second half. If the whole team defended well, he would not have been exposed like he did. Maybe you should take a lesson in football tactics. I'm trying really hard not to bite...but you did me with that last line. "Overreact like someone got murdered" - right, I mean...an honest assessment of a player's inept performance is very similar to how I'd behave had I witnessed a murder, clearly. Saying he played well - I strongly disagree. You seem to be satisfied that running forward regularly makes a good performance. I'm not knocking the lad's stamina, just his footballing ability. He was exposed because he is a poor player, plain and simple. When Puncheon isolates him one-on-one, that is not the team performing badly and defending poorly as you implied, that is Lambert's lack of tactical nous putting a slow, inexperienced full back against a winger like that. And Puncheon is hardly Cristiano Ronaldo is he! If Stevens comes up against Hazard, Silva, Valencia, Walcott or Bale I think he might end up with his legs around his neck and his head buried deep inside his rectum. Glad you're satisfied with his performance though. Edited January 16, 2013 by RedBullDelfouneso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'm trying really hard not to bite...but you did me with that last line. "Overreact like someone got murdered" - right, I mean...an honest assessment of a player's inept performance is very similar to how I'd behave had I witnessed a murder, clearly. Saying he played well - I strongly disagree. You seem to be satisfied that running forward regularly makes a good performance. I'm not knocking the lad's stamina, just his footballing ability. He was exposed because he is a poor player, plain and simple. When Puncheon isolates him one-on-one, that is not the team performing badly and defending poorly as you implied, that is Lambert's lack of tactical nous putting a slow, inexperienced full back against a winger like that. And Puncheon is hardly Cristiano Ronaldo is he! If Stevens comes up against Hazard, Silva, Valencia, Walcott or Bale I think he might end up with his legs around his neck and his head buried deep inside his rectum. Glad you're satisfied with his performance though. Actually, he did come up against Valencia or NANI or someone else at man u.... Then he did not bomb forward, but stayed calm and did well. That was his first start for the team. I am sorry that I don't think he did too badly, but why was he isolated one on one against puncheon? Where was the support? You don't need to be world class to get past any man when you are at full speed one on one against him with nobody in support. Why are you so annoyed I have another opinion than you? Are you the opinion master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 He attacks better than Bennett IMO but they're both useless at defending. Would still rather Warnock played over both of them and thats saying something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDelfouneso Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Actually, he did come up against Valencia or NANI or someone else at man u.... Then he did not bomb forward, but stayed calm and did well. That was his first start for the team. I am sorry that I don't think he did too badly, but why was he isolated one on one against puncheon? Where was the support? You don't need to be world class to get past any man when you are at full speed one on one against him with nobody in support. Why are you so annoyed I have another opinion than you? Are you the opinion master? I am the opinion master. You're right, your opinion is just as valid as mine. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffoman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I thought Stephan's was pretty decent at the weekend. He had no cover in front of him for a lot of the game. He also had to come across to the middle a lot to cover gaps left by the two central defenders and made some great interceptions. At worst he was average on Saturday in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Enda would have been perfect for the left wing back role in the 532 we played before Christmas. He has a good cross - much better than Lichaj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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