rodders0223 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) On 21/12/2016 at 20:22, sir_gary_cahill said: Gary Gardner is far from an average player, when he was younger he was mentioned and played in the same England youth side as Shelvey and Wilshere. Those 2 are full England internationals now, Gardner has had 2 career threatening injuries but has bounced back terrifically Lowton is far from average, he is playing well for Burnley in the Premier League now, that goal v Stoke was amazing ...but why is it always "when he was younger." The world is full of people who could have been contenders, but never were.Stefan Moore playing against Rooney in the youth cup final. Is he going to be making a comeback? This is now, and I would say he is at best average, and at worst crap. He is 24 now, not many 24 year olds putting in performances like Gardner has go on to be PL footballers. Edited December 23, 2016 by rodders0223 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hasn't shown enough yet, hopefully we will see much more from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 33 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: ...but why is it always "when he was younger." The world is full of people who could have been contenders, but never were.Stefan Moore playing against Rooney in the youth cup final. Is he going to be making a comeback? This is now, and I would say he is at best average, and at worst crap. He is 24 now, not many 24 year olds putting in performances like Gardner has go on to be PL footballers. Not every 24 year old is Gary Gardner, he's outstanding, if he wasn't then the club wouldn't have given him a new 4 year contract. In my opinion, he will thrive here in the coming years it all about the here and now and the future and the past cannot be changed. The football club clearly believe in him and I trust them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hmm not sure on this one. He has been very unlucky with injuries but we are still waiting for Gary to really show that he is a quality player for over 5 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 A new 4 year contract for a player that can't establish himself in the team ahead of Westwood.. and here I thought we were about to splash the cash on a completely new midfield in the window.. In the summer I was actually looking forward to Gardner establishing himself in the team this season and finally show his promise, but ive been very disappointed so far by his performances. Don't think he's deserved a new contract but can only hope he still comes good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Meh, he works hard but i'm sure we will regret this, he's just not a talented footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted December 23, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2016 Poor decision in my view. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Offer him a new deal, but 4 years? Absolute madness have they not learned anything from the gabby farce? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Offer him a new deal, but 4 years? Absolute madness have they not learned anything from the gabby farce? Maybe the club are trying to guarantee a decent fee if someone comes in for him. Forest could be looking for a Lansbury replacement if rumours are to be believed. (Not saying Gardner will be sold this window but if we get promoted then maybe in the summer) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Offer him a new deal, but 4 years? Absolute madness have they not learned anything from the gabby farce? Maybe the club are trying to guarantee a decent fee if someone comes in for him. Forest could be looking for a Lansbury replacement if rumours are to be believed. (Not saying Gardner will be sold this window but if we get promoted then maybe in the summer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 why do we always do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 4 years seems obviously excessive. We'd have got a fee for him with just a 2 year extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 They can clearly see more than me, but happy to be corrected if he improves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Offer him a new deal, but 4 years? Absolute madness have they not learned anything from the gabby farce? As we have no idea of the terms its impossible to say what it really means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 4 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Not every 24 year old is Gary Gardner, he's outstanding, if he wasn't then the club wouldn't have given him a new 4 year contract. Is this a deliberate, world-class example of circular logic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Surprised at the four year deal but hope he proves his doubters wrong and shows the talent he had in his earlier years. Got it all to do but hopefully he will make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 22 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Surprised at the four year deal but hope he proves his doubters wrong and shows the talent he had in his earlier years. Got it all to do but hopefully he will make it. Can you or anyone define this term 'make it'? Now, it's banded about a lot in football, particularly in football but what does it actually mean? Had Marc Albrighton or Ciaran Clark made it or have they made it now they have left and seemingly gone on to better things? I'm intrigued I really am, answers on a postcard please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 When I said "make it" I was referring to fulfilling of potential. When I see Gardner playing at the moment I don't see the player many hoped for or even expected. That's not to say he won't improve as IMO we haven't seen the best of him yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 23 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: When I said "make it" I was referring to fulfilling of potential. When I see Gardner playing at the moment I don't see the player many hoped for or even expected. That's not to say he won't improve as IMO we haven't seen the best of him yet. Thanks Brumstopdogs, I just need reminding from time to time, I think you are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Absolute madness, not good enough for the first team and assuming we get promoted at some point soon no where near good enough to be on the bench in the future. What a ridiculous decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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