VILLAMARV Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, TRO said: "Smiths" crisps with the little blue bag of salt.....how's that for retro. Can still get them. Wheelz though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, TRO said: That is true......but pardon the description It's his "ring craft " that is suspect. his simply drifts in and out.....we need a poor mans Kante.....constantly "at it" Does Makelele count? Maybe he could be coaxed out of retirement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 33 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Agreed, I don't think his brother is better by any stretch of the imagination Of course his brother is better. Just look at their respective careers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 On 13/12/2016 at 18:58, sir_gary_cahill said: Heading and shooting ability, I think that Westwood and Gardner are completely different player. I think they both bring different qualities to the side, Westwood is more conservative than Gardner but is also effective in his role. Gardner has the ability to arrive late in the box and finishes extremely well, they are both very valuable players to us I think Oh SGC, I love that you stick up for our players, but these are the worst players in our team, and both need to go in order that we may become competitive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 16 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: He pulled a strange expression when he got subbed off, it was almost a smirk, I think he does hold back but I do love him, I also think he's a premier league player He is proving to be not even Championship quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 17 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said: One thing I will say for him is that he does offer some goal threat. at least he doesnt offer a goal threat FOR the opposition (like Westwood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: Of course his brother is better. Just look at their respective careers. One is 6 years older than the other, one has had 2 career threatening injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 25 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: One is 6 years older than the other, one has had 2 career threatening injuries You can hardly blame Craig for being less injury prone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I like Gardner. He is well rounded, but not excellent in one particular area of the field. Good player to have around the club, plus he is a local lad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cudoz Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 He made a couple of good runs into the box yesterday which went un-noticed, and should have had a penalty if not for the diabolical ref.. However, for the rest of the game he was largely giving the ball away and generally being ineffective. That being said, he performed well for Forest last year, so there is a player there somewhere. It's just can he produce it here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 34 minutes ago, cudoz said: He made a couple of good runs into the box yesterday which went un-noticed, and should have had a penalty if not for the diabolical ref.. However, for the rest of the game he was largely giving the ball away and generally being ineffective. That being said, he performed well for Forest last year, so there is a player there somewhere. It's just can he produce it here. I think he can, I will never lose faith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, cudoz said: He made a couple of good runs into the box yesterday which went un-noticed, and should have had a penalty if not for the diabolical ref.. However, for the rest of the game he was largely giving the ball away and generally being ineffective. That being said, he performed well for Forest last year, so there is a player there somewhere. It's just can he produce it here. Apparently bang average at Forest last season. Was brilliant in his first loan spell there, but only "OK" second time round - which is basically what he looks like being for us right now. Decent enough squad player, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Not good enough for me , another in a long list that get an easy ride because they are Villa Edited December 19, 2016 by mattyvilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 46 minutes ago, mattyvilla said: Not good enough for me , another in a long list that get an easy ride because they are Villa No proof to this effect, when he was subbed the other day, he was almost smirking, disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 35 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: No proof to this effect, when he was subbed the other day, he was almost smirking, disgraceful no proof that he isnt good enough , or that he gets an easy ride? Had he not come through the academy he would have been moved on some time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, mattyvilla said: Not good enough for me , another in a long list that get an easy ride because they are Villa What planet are you living on where he's getting an "easy ride"? Would you be happier if he were booed? I hate comments like that. Stating your own opinion is cool, wishing scorn on a lad who is doing nothing more than try his best at playing football for Aston Villa is shameful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What planet are you living on where he's getting an "easy ride"? Would you be happier if he were booed? I hate comments like that. Stating your own opinion is cool, wishing scorn on a lad who is doing nothing more than try his best at playing football for Aston Villa is shameful. Who mentioned booing? , i have stated had he not been a product of the academy he would be long gone , that is the planet i am living on , i hate people that make assumptions. Shameful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I thought he was below average again on Sunday. His positional awareness is awful and one or two notable exceptions aside his passing was and is every bit as bad as Jedinak's. That said he put a shift in, as per, and I'm glad he's getting an "easy ride". Supporters turning on these lads will do them no good whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, mattyvilla said: Who mentioned booing? , i have stated had he not been a product of the academy he would be long gone , that is the planet i am living on , i hate people that make assumptions. Shameful No you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: No you didn't. " Had he not come through the academy he would have been moved on some time ago " , read the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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