TRO Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Just now, sir_gary_cahill said: The opposition were nowhere to be seen when that header flew in a few weeks ago .....one swallow SGC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Absolutely **** awful. I wish he was a good player, it's just not working out. Trouble is he's the only midfielder the manager will use who has legs and isn't Bacuna levels of completely bonkers. I hope he plays better than that on Thursday or we're going to get beat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) 36 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Oh dear, why is it always the academy graduates that receive the most criticism from the majority of fans on this forum? He scored a quite brilliant header a few weeks ago against Birmingham City. He has had so many serious injuries, just give him a bit of time, he's one of us. He went to Cockshut Hill school in Yardley like his brother just give him time. The club obviously believe in him like I do, if they didn't, they wouldn't have given him a new 4 year contract! He could be my brother, it would still mean he's not good enough. He's well over his injury now. He's not going to get better. I don't know why they have offered him a new contract but if he's the future we are staying right where we are. Edited December 26, 2016 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Absolutely **** awful. I wish he was a good player, it's just not working out. Trouble is he's the only midfielder the manager will use who has legs and isn't Bacuna levels of completely bonkers. I hope he plays better than that on Thursday or we're going to get beat. I have been watching Villa for 57 years, I can never remember a first team squad that i was in favour of every player we had. tell a lie, 80/81..81/82 I would have struggled there. We just have to get on with it and look at the overall. We are winning. However, i tend to agree....I'll just get the winning bit in before Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Oh dear, why is it always the academy graduates that receive the most criticism from the majority of fans on this forum? He scored a quite brilliant header a few weeks ago against Birmingham City. He has had so many serious injuries, just give him a bit of time, he's one of us. He went to Cockshut Hill school in Yardley like his brother just give him time. The club obviously believe in him like I do, if they didn't, they wouldn't have given him a new 4 year contract! If only player ability was positively correlated to how hilarious the name of the school they went to is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Oh dear, why is it always the academy graduates that receive the most criticism from the majority of fans on this forum? He scored a quite brilliant header a few weeks ago against Birmingham City. He has had so many serious injuries, just give him a bit of time, he's one of us. He went to Cockshut Hill school in Yardley like his brother just give him time. The club obviously believe in him like I do, if they didn't, they wouldn't have given him a new 4 year contract! The club has made a habit of giving out long contracts to undeserving players. I had hoped that under Xia's stewardship that might have stopped. Even a 2 year contract to get a fee for him from a League 1 club I might have understood, but there is no way, to my mind, that Gardner will ever justify the new contract. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 We do seem to be a charity for shit players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I'm not sure what he offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted December 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2016 28 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: The club has made a habit of giving out long contracts to undeserving players. I had hoped that under Xia's stewardship that might have stopped. Even a 2 year contract to get a fee for him from a League 1 club I might have understood, but there is no way, to my mind, that Gardner will ever justify the new contract. I agree with this, and said something similar the other day. A two-year deal would have allowed us to make the decision, next summer, to keep him if he had earned it, or sell him at his real market value if he hadn't. Something that @rodders0223 said once has stuck with me. He was talking about how Albion keep giving short-term, one or two-year deals to their deeply average players like Craig Dawson. That way, they're constantly hungry and always playing for a new deal. By handing out mega-long contracts to under-performers, we just give them more time and space to under-perform in. Then we can't shift them; then we end up saying 'well, we're paying him so we might as well get something out of it', which is exactly where we are with Gabby these days. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, sidcow said: To ensure we get a fee and stop him holding out for a free stinking the place out for 12 months or whatever? I thought that at first, but now I'm starting to doubt that. I don't know what the bloke earns, but how much could we sell him for? For me Bacuna and Westwood should be in front of him so I'd be amazed if he was worth £1m which is probably less than his annual salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Oh dear, why is it always the academy graduates that receive the most criticism from the majority of fans on this forum? Come on mate, today was one of the worst midfield displays I've ever seen and i really mean that. How on earth can you defend that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Completely anonymous today, had to come off at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 We either get promoted and are stuck with a player way out of his depth for 3 years or we don't get promoted and we are stuck with a player way out of his depth for 3 years. Why do we always do this. A healthy pay rise no doubt and can join the long list of players we can't shift due to their bumper pay day. Championship clubs don't hand out FOUR YEAR contracts to this calibre of player. Merry Christmas Gary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 9 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Completely anonymous today, had to come off at half time Not that it matters i suppose, but i hope he was taken off because he was crap rather than the knock he took jist before half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) Just give him a bit of time, that's all I'm asking, I remember a few years I was crying out for Sam Allardyce to be appointed as manager and was ridiculed then. It's swings and roundabouts, in my opinion, Sam Allardyce is a great English manager, he plays to his strengths and he's just been appointed at Crystal Palace in the Premier League for those who don't know Edited December 26, 2016 by sir_gary_cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 He the hell has he warranted a new four year contract after another garbage performance today. ridiculous he would be sold net month if I was in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Just give him a bit of time, that's all I'm asking, I Mate he is 24 now, how mich time doe the kid need? He is a millionaire who has been on our books for about 10yrs and played about 20 games, and shown nothing in any of them. We have given him way more than he has given us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 At his best he offers energy and a willingness to get forward. Thats it. Its not a lot, and he's not at his best very often....he could be a good Championship squad back up if he was always at 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Just now, av1 said: Mate he is 24 now, how mich time doe the kid need? He is a millionaire who has been on our books for about 10yrs and played about 20 games, and shown nothing in any of them. We have given him way more than he has given us. How do you know he's a millionaire? You don't know his salary, neither do I, there's a reason he was given a new 4 year contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, terrytini said: At his best he offers energy and a willingness to get forward. Thats why i was so angry today because he didn't even give us that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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