TRO Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) There is a clear distinction in performance in both CB's when Jedinak is missing.The dominant factor is reduced considerably. Edited May 4, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Could Be Rotterdam Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just to clarify, why was he sent off today even though the penalty was given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, This Could Be Rotterdam said: Just to clarify, why was he sent off today even though the penalty was given? I think the new rule only applies to goalies? Could be wrong thou... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 40 minutes ago, This Could Be Rotterdam said: Just to clarify, why was he sent off today even though the penalty was given? Cos Championship refs are diabolical? Would like to see some clarification on this new 'rule' to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 58 minutes ago, This Could Be Rotterdam said: Just to clarify, why was he sent off today even though the penalty was given? I haven't seen it. Was it a deliberate foul or a genuine attempt to win the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChrisVillan said: I haven't seen it. Was it a deliberate foul or a genuine attempt to win the ball? Neither, he kind of stumbled across the back of the striker chasing him into the box. The striker got his shot away just prior to Baker clipping his heel sending him over. It was clumsy but not a red. Edited May 7, 2017 by theboyangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 32 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Neither, he kind of stumbled across the back of the striker chasing him into the box. The striker got his shot away just prior to Baker clipping his heel sending him over. It was clumsy but not a red. He pulled him back as though. Previously, as last man, it was a definite sending off. With this new rule I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, mikeyp102 said: He pulled him back as though. Previously, as last man, it was a definite sending off. With this new rule I'm not sure. Didn't really notice the pull back - that kind of changes it a little. Still think a penalty and a red card is harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I might be mistaken but if it's a deliberate professional foul, the rule effectively hasn't changed. If it's a genuine attempt, yellow will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, ChrisVillan said: I might be mistaken but if it's a deliberate professional foul, the rule effectively hasn't changed. If it's a genuine attempt, yellow will do. I don't think it was either. I've seen the replays and I definitely don't see a pull back. Effectively the striker gets his shot off and Baker sort of runs into his heels, knocking him over. I can see why it was given but I certainly wouldn't say it was a professional foul, but then again he wasn't really trying to get the ball. CLumsy is the word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 7, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted May 7, 2017 I really like Baker defensively. I think he's more than competent in this league. However, he is the worst offender in the team for hoofing. Despite us having 10 men, we clearly hoofed it less when he went off. As shit as Elphick is, he's fairly calm on the ball. Too calm at times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: I don't think it was either. I've seen the replays and I definitely don't see a pull back. Effectively the striker gets his shot off and Baker sort of runs into his heels, knocking him over. I can see why it was given but I certainly wouldn't say it was a professional foul, but then again he wasn't really trying to get the ball. CLumsy is the word. Probably very much open to interpretation from the sound of it. From that description it seems like a yellow would have been enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 28, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2017 Looks like we are selling Nathan Baker, which is a huge mistake. If the lad wants a move for first team football then fair enough, but if he's happy has backup then there's no wy we should be selling him. Especially whilst Elphick and Richards are on the books still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 1 minute ago, PieFacE said: Looks like we are selling Nathan Baker, which is a huge mistake. If the lad wants a move for first team football then fair enough, but if he's happy has backup then there's no wy we should be selling him. Especially whilst Elphick and Richards are on the books still. To whom and for how much? Seems a bit odd to sell, unless he's asked to leave due to potentially getting limited playing time behind Terry and Chester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 28, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just now, sne said: To whom and for how much? Seems a bit odd to sell, unless he's asked to leave due to potentially getting limited playing time behind Terry and Chester. Bristol City apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Ridiculous decision to sell, unless he wants out. I would imagine the chance to train and play with John Terry wouldn't mean that he is asking to leave. Terry, Chester, Baker, Samba would have been a brilliant choice of CB's for the season. Easily the strongest in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Must want to be a regular starter. Would prefer him to stay but understandable as he is not going to start half our games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Looks like we are selling Nathan Baker, which is a huge mistake. If the lad wants a move for first team football then fair enough, but if he's happy has backup then there's no wy we should be selling him. Especially whilst Elphick and Richards are on the books still. Given that he's now 26 and looks to be 4th choice CB behind Terry, Chester and Samba, it wouldn't surprise me if he's asked for a move. Personally I'll be sad to see him leave, once upon a time I thought he was a Villa legend in the making - but he's no longer a young player and still struggles to remain fit for a full season. I'd be angling for Flint coming the other way if I was SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would leave us very fragile in the CB department as I have some doubts about Terry's ability to handle a full 46 game season, and even bigger doubts about Samba's ability. Both regarding injuries and actual ability. The less said about Richards and Elphick the better. Would definitely mean we won't be playing with a 3 CB formation. Unless we have someone else on the way in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Massive shame, was very good last season. Would much rather Richards did one. I'm sure he'd get plenty of game time this season, would have him as 3rd choice at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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