bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, Genie said: What do you mean? I can still use google apps, google sheets, samsung apps on my iphone. I can connect it to me car via cable or bluetooth. I have several pairs cheap wireless earbuds that work perfectly. Do android handsets offer apple pay? Where do you get the apps from? There’s only one place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 21 minutes ago, Genie said: What do you mean? I can still use google apps, google sheets, samsung apps on my iphone. I can connect it to me car via cable or bluetooth. I have several pairs cheap wireless earbuds that work perfectly. Do android handsets offer apple pay? Oh and the reason you can do a lot of those things is because the EU have been slapping Apple with anti trust lawsuits for years. The latest incarnation of the iPhone has a USB type C connection not a lightning connector for example. Direct result of EU action already. You couldn’t pay for or receive emails from Spotify on an Apple device, again that only stopped with an EU lawsuit and a billion plus euro fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) The usb-c thing is a great step forward, I thought it was to reduce waste by commonising the connection across all brands. Apple seemed to have fought hardest but eventually caved in. Edited March 22 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 11 minutes ago, Genie said: The usb-c thing is a great step forward, I thought it was to reduce waste by commonising the connection across all brands. Apple seemed to have fought hardest but eventually caved in. Apple was forcing people to have their own proprietary connection. That’s a monopoly regardless because even third parties producing a lightning connector would have had to pay to use Apple’s patent (in theory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 22 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, Genie said: What do you mean? I can still use google apps, google sheets, samsung apps on my iphone. I can connect it to me car via cable or bluetooth. I have several pairs cheap wireless earbuds that work perfectly. Do android handsets offer apple pay? Yeah, you can use all those apps, but they're hobbled. Apple previously asserted (and won) in court saying that you don't need an App, you can just have a mobile web page, then no need to pay Apple the 30% App Store tax. The fact that apps have access to many more APIs than web pages was missed by the court. And Apple, for some reason. The suit suggests that some functionality is restricted to Apple stuff, for 'security' reasons. e.g. Apple earbuds have lots of groovy ways of interacting with the phone, but non Apple stuff isn't allowed to do quite so much. Same with features that were an innovative 3rd party app. Then Apple add the app's functionality to iOS, but with greater integration and functionality, thereby making the app less attractive and killing it, and, according to the suit, innovation generally, and it's the consumer that misses out. Their 'security reasons' happen to make Apple products more attractive, thereby making Apple more money. 'Security reasons' is Apple's reason for not allowing 3rd party app stores which means Apple can charge 30% on all App Store transactions, or a browser has to use Appe's Webkit, so that the browsers are mostly identical under the surface, meaning that there is no competition to improve a browser on iOS. For 'security reasons' My girlfriend still has a load of songs she bought on iTunes, that can only be played on Apple stuff. And the list goes on. As for Apple Pay, Google Wallet etc, they're all pretty much identical for the end user. I've no idea if Apple Pay is available on Android, but they're free to make it available if they want. The key thing is that no vendor wants it, as it's expensive, in much the same way that many vendors don't take Amex, because it's too expensive. Because on an iPhone you can ONLY have Apple Pay, Apple has a captive market meaning that a if a vendor or bank refuses to take Apple Pay, then they lose out on the entire Apple user base. Some might say that is anti competitive behaviour. Apple make some good products. They engage in anti competitive behaviour. So far, so normal for a megacorp. What sets Apple apart is the lies and abuse of trust. "We're doing this for you." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 22 Moderator Share Posted March 22 14 minutes ago, Anthony said: For 'security reasons' My girlfriend still has a load of songs she bought on iTunes, that can only be played on Apple stuff. That was for DRM reasons by the record companies, not Apple reasons. I agree broadly with the rest of your post though. Apple take advantage of their strength for purely commercial reasons (as do others, like google, Amazon etc.). They each do it in different ways and with different “justifications”, only a few of which seem to have any degree of validity to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 22 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, blandy said: That was for DRM reasons by the record companies, not Apple reasons. I agree broadly with the rest of your post though. Apple take advantage of their strength for purely commercial reasons (as do others, like google, Amazon etc.). They each do it in different ways and with different “justifications”, only a few of which seem to have any degree of validity to me. Absolutely the record companies, yes. But the DRM should tie the track to a person, not an Apple or Sony product. I remember at the time thinking that Apple weren't being clear about the T's & C's tying you to Apple's iPods (at the time) and people were being duped. Anyway, if you want to release the tracks from DRM, so you can play them on anything, you have to pay Apple. I wonder how much of that money goes to the record companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted March 22 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 22 (edited) What with the 'Sickness & Health' and 'Royal Family' threads, this cheered me up greatly. About five years ago, I unexpectedly saw a bloke I used to be in a band with (but had lost touch) on our local TV news programme. He was in hospital, and looked awful, talking about a last-ditch attempt to treat his advanced lung cancer with an experimental new drug. Gulp. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, and I was perusing the FB page of a local band, and spot my mate's name as their lead guitarist. He doesn't do social media, but the band passed on my phone number and we got back in touch. The best bit is that the treatment worked, and he's been cancer-free for three years. I'm going to one of his gigs next month. Edited March 22 by mjmooney 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, mjmooney said: What the 'Sickness & Health' and 'Royal Family' threads, this cheered me up greatly. About five years ago, I unexpectedly saw a bloke I used to be in a band with (but had lost touch) on our local TV news programme. He was in hospital, and looked awful, talking about a last-ditch attempt to treat his advanced lung cancer with an experimental new drug. Gulp. Fast forward to a few weeks ago, and I was perusing the FB page of a local band, and spot my mate's name as their lead guitarist. He doesn't do social media, but the band passed on my phone number and we got back in touch. The best bit is that the treatment worked, and he's been cancer-free for three years. I'm going to one of his gigs next month. Love it MJ - enjoy sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 It’s only the second flag I’ve ever been commissioned to do, but again I’m expecting a pretty good reaction to it. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 10 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: It’s only the second flag I’ve ever been commissioned to do, but again I’m expecting a pretty good reaction to it. Typical snowflake dragon heading over to the far left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 23 Moderator Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: It’s only the second flag I’ve ever been commissioned to do, but again I’m expecting a pretty good reaction to it. But you’ve based it on the England 1966 World Cup training kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Proud patriot hiding the woke snowflake white collar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 Couple of early evening beers with a mate. Yes @sidcow they were Hazy AF 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted March 24 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24 12 hours ago, Xela said: Couple of early evening beers with a mate. Yes @sidcow they were Hazy AF Its just a facade. Sneaky **** 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 24 Moderator Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, Tegis said: Its just a facade. Sneaky **** @sidcowis conflicted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 24 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bickster said: @sidcowis conflicted Nope. 1) it's beer...... In a can 2) it probably costs more than a decent pint of Cask ale 3) IT'S **** HAZY You could call it "Being pleasured by a topless Holly Willoughby" and I'd have zero interest in it. Edited March 24 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Are people suggesting that in a blind tasting they could tell whether a beer originated from a can or a bottle? Or is this purely an aesthetics bias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 24 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24 Just now, chrisp65 said: Are people suggesting that in a blind tasting they could tell whether a beer originated from a can or a bottle? Or is this purely an aesthetics bias? Canned stuff tends to be more fizzy, and (OK, I accept it maybe psychosomatic) tastes 'metallic' to me. And MUCH more likely to induce headaches. Not going to comment on lager, that's a different world, but for ale: .draught (cask) > bottles >>> cans or nitrokeg. If the only choice is cans or nitrokeg, I'll pass, and have wine. Or tea/coffee. I NEVER buy canned beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: "Being pleasured by a topless Holly Willoughby" Go on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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