Chine Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Southgate will remain, no way will he step down and he’ll want players that fit his system. Jack isn’t one of them and draws too much attention away from the rest of the squad. I hope he continues to get selected and so he should but I’d rather see him play in a system that befits his style. Yes I agree Southgate will more than likely stay on but there will likely be a lot of conversation from the FA around the subject of set up and style of football given the squad selected / available , I still would be keener to see a fresh approach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, theboyangel said: I have a bad feeling Jack won’t get called up for the World Cup qualifiers next season. Others such as Greenwood will get recalled ahead of him. Unfortunately he may not be our player for the WC, so I think he most definitely will be called up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sparrow1988 Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2021 Stumbled upon this on Twitter earlier. Still takes time for the kid after the loss. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Salad Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Stumbled upon this on Twitter earlier. Still takes time for the kid after the loss. Jack has always been a class act. He is what an athlete should be; gives it their all when they play and be class at every opportunity with their fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Stumbled upon this on Twitter earlier. Still takes time for the kid after the loss. Special man 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, VillaJay said: A quick look on the city forum, says he's not reliable and only posts vague stuff that might/might not happen. I think, as it stands it's more likely Jack stays another season with or without a new contract. so city dont have a decent writer for the athletic either then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 There's so much bull going on about Man City Buying Jack. We only know most it's fake news, especially when the media claim Aston Villa cannot refuse 100 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recircle Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thug said: Southgate walks up to Saka to say he’s taking a penalty, Jack steps forward expecting to be told the same.. Southgate walks off to look for…. Pickford Nice he went to have a word with Pickford, nevertheless. Pickford did well in the shoot-out. Saving two penalties in a shoot-out will see you on the winning side a fair amount of the time. (Hindsight and all that, but it wouldn't have been the most preposterous idea to have Pickford take a pen after saving one; the buzz from saving would've really helped to quell the nerves, plus he naturally seems one of the more confident England players.) Edited July 12, 2021 by deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paulie Posted July 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Edited July 12, 2021 by Paulie 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, Paulie said: Thank you! New contract announced in the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Paulie said: I'm confused. Doesn’t Emi II have an own thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Suits him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, vreitti said: I'm confused. Doesn’t Emi II have an own thread It's Jack's comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, vreitti said: I'm confused. Doesn’t Emi II have an own thread Look closelier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Look closelier. As per usual, my jokes aren't all that funny. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted July 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2021 13 hours ago, DaveAV1 said: Are you Roy Keene? I don't think so, not defending Keane either, think some can't grasp the complexity of some issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted July 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2021 13 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: He doesn't take penalties for Aston Villa. That's your evidence that he doesn't want the responsibility? Not that there might be better penalty takers in the squad, that it's a team game and despite occasional evidence to the contrary, he knows we're not actually Jack Grealish FC? What I'm saying is there are currently two narratives going around, that the squad knew who was taking penalties if the game went that way and all players had the opportunities to impress during training. The other narrative is Jack went up to Southgate and said I'm ready to take a penalty. PS I never said he didnt want the responsibility, stop making things up. The point being made is people who want to take penalties generally take them, unless it is taken away from them. You think coaches and managers at an elite level don't take those nuances into consideration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted July 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2021 13 hours ago, Okonokos said: What point is it that you're actually trying to make? Are you guessing that Grealish didn't want to take one? What is that based on? Because all the evidence suggests otherwise... Are you saying he doesn't have the bottle to take one? Because again the evidence suggests otherwise... Proven he can do it in the most pressurised scenario. In what very well might have been his last kick for the club, had we lost. Is your evidence that he is not Villa's first choice taker? Is that all you've got? Well... 18/19 - Abraham was our designated taker because he's a penalty specialist. 19/20 - We only had 3 penalties all season. Grealish took one. Wesley was given one of the others to try and give him a hat trick. El Ghazi took the other and was designated penalty taker at that stage. 20/21 - Watkins started as designated penalty taker as Smith wanted his first choice striker to get goals early on in his career for us. He missed and then El Ghazi has taken over since because he has a 100% record from the penalty spot. Are you saying that every penalty we've had last season that Grealish should have disobeyed the manager's instructions and taken the ball off a player who has literally never missed from the spot? Just so he can take one himself and prove that he's got the heart for it? Is that what a captain is meant to do? Be selfish like that? Grealish actually handed the ball to El Ghazi for the 90th minute penalty against Wolves because he'd just had a load of unacceptable stick from our fans online and he wanted to give him the chance to re-build his confidence. That is what a captain does. They don't take the ball off a player whose confidence is rock bottom just to prove they can do it themselves. Are you saying he should go against manager's orders for club and country and just forcibly take one himself? Need I remind you what his manager thought the last time someone did that... And before you say otherwise, it was Southgate's decision who took them... So, back to this post... Tell me where I've used one instance to prove my "narrative" and "conveniently forgotten the rest of the evidence". You said you're not my mother and to do some research. Well, how's my research? Still waiting for your evidence... There's two narratives currently out there sunshine, Southgate said that the players knew the penalty takers if it went to penalties prior to the game, they'd spent the last month taking 100's of penalties to decide the takers. The other narrative is Jack went up to Southgate and said he would take a penalty. You all seem to be making assumptions, but not actually reading what is being said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, QldVilla said: I don't think so, not defending Keane either, think some can't grasp the complexity of some issues. 6 minutes ago, QldVilla said: What I'm saying is there are currently two narratives going around, that the squad knew who was taking penalties if the game went that way and all players had the opportunities to impress during training. The other narrative is Jack went up to Southgate and said I'm ready to take a penalty. PS I never said he didnt want the responsibility, stop making things up. The point being made is people who want to take penalties generally take them, unless it is taken away from them. You think coaches and managers at an elite level don't take those nuances into consideration? 2 minutes ago, QldVilla said: There's two narratives currently out there sunshine, Southgate said that the players knew the penalty takers if it went to penalties prior to the game, they'd spent the last month taking 100's of penalties to decide the takers. The other narrative is Jack went up to Southgate and said he would take a penalty. You all seem to be making assumptions, but not actually reading what is being said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted July 13, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 hours ago, MotoMkali said: There's currently two narratives out there or did you bother to take notice? Southgate said the penalty takers were decided on 100's of penalties taken over the past month and the squad knew going into the game who they are. And Jack went up to Southgate saying he would take a penalty. Did Jack miss the meeting? IMO he put himself forward as he wanted to be in the moment, but the decision had already been made. I haven't questioned Jack's ability at any stage, just looked at the evidence. Your problem is your reading into my comments things that arent there, becuase your so blinded by an inability to interpret the facts correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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