MrBlack Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Indeed. Just couldn’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I think it’s highly unlikely that Jack could have performed to the standard that he has if he was suffering from substance abuse. Kid has got shin problems. End of. 100%. Boy could he drink!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, MrBlack said: You’ve just kind of proven my point. Every now and then Gazza sorted himself out and he was unbelievable. In between he fell of the wagon and was nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, M_Afro said: You’ve just kind of proven my point. Every now and then Gazza sorted himself out and he was unbelievable. In between he fell of the wagon and was nowhere. So how do we know Jack hasn't fallen off the wagon now? His form dipped off before his lengthy lay off. I hate that I'm siding with the conspiracy theorists... you are right that it probably isn't true, but there is every chance it could be. Edited April 17, 2021 by MrBlack Correcting myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Loved Merson but he is not fit to lace Jack’s boots. Don’t agree at all, but that’s not really the point. It’s about whether you can hide your addiction and still function as a top flight footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Don’t agree at all, but that’s not really the point. It’s about whether you can hide your addiction and still function as a top flight footballer. I believe you can, as did Merson but I think it would be impossible to perform at Jack’s level if you had substance abuse. Especially now when sports science advances ensure that all your opponents are at their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I've heard from a credible source that all of the other credible sources mentioned in this thread are full of shit. Just passing on information. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Don’t agree at all, but that’s not really the point. It’s about whether you can hide your addiction and still function as a top flight footballer. At the peak of his career Merson couldn’t get a game for Arsenal and went to play for Middlesbrough in the Championship! If Grealish leaves Villa he will be going to one of the best sides in the world. Levels. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: If he's struggling through an addiction, no way they'd be able to keep this under wraps for this long. or play like one of the best players in the Premier League. If he is then he is better than Maradona and George Best combined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nick76 Posted April 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, MrBlack said: So how do we know Jack hasn't fallen off the wagon now? His form dipped off before his lengthy lay off. I hate that I'm siding with the conspiracy theorists... you are right that it probably isn't true, but there is every chance it could be. I think you are falling into the conspiracy trap. You are starting at a conclusion and asking the other party to prove it’s not true. There is a god prove it’s not true, the earth is flat prove it’s not true, aliens abducted me prove it’s not true, Jack has fallen off the wagon proves it’s not true. You haven’t gone the final step saying he’s fell off the wagon but you are treading a fine line. Why isn’t the most simple answer that he’s still struggling with his injury like the club has told us? The rest is rumours of rumours and an article about some player addicted to sleeping drugs and then something else about other drugs. No mention of Jack. We’ve heard he’s in rehab yet we have seen pictures of him over the last month...at the game the other day. If evidence comes out then fine but at the moment it’s modern communication that wants the story to be more than it is because then it’s something to talk about. The only evidence we have that he might take drugs is the clothes he wears because surely nobody would wear clothes like that if they weren’t high Edited April 18, 2021 by nick76 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stratvillan Posted April 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2021 I'm not easily offended, but I do find the totally unsubstantiated gossip a little distasteful. There's no evidence that he has any problem other than a footballing injury. If we are citing occasions when he has behaved like a lot of young men as evidence for alcohol or substance dependency, then there's an awful lot on this site who should be in therapy. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, M_Afro said: At the peak of his career Merson couldn’t get a game for Arsenal and went to play for Middlesbrough in the Championship! If Grealish leaves Villa he will be going to one of the best sides in the world. Levels. Merson also played when players were a bit more professional but nowhere near the standard of fitness of now. Footballers are supreme athletes now and if Jack has serious substance issues then he is probably the most talented footballer ever, most of the top footballers live on a strict diet and some dont even touch alcohol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Grealish has one of the most supreme diets in the league as recommended by Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: I'm not easily offended, but I do find the totally unsubstantiated gossip a little distasteful. There's no evidence that he has any problem other than a footballing injury. If we are citing occasions when he has behaved like a lot of young men as evidence for alcohol or substance dependency, then there's an awful lot on this site who should be in therapy. I guess you could say the club's policy of not really talking about injuries counts against us as it feeds the rumours. Ultimately as long as they know what's going on it doesn't really matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I guess you could say the club's policy of not really talking about injuries counts against us as it feeds the rumours. Ultimately as long as they know what's going on it doesn't really matter. True, The club don't talk about much. Transfers often happen without us knowing until the last minute. Injuries are an internal matter. This all cones from being privately owned and not a public entity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AvfcRigo82 Posted April 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2021 2 hours ago, M_Afro said: If Grealish leaves Villa he will be going to one of the best sides in the world. Levels. That's one hell of a signing they've pulled off, if true! ... looks like they won the double this season though! ITK? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 10 hours ago, nick76 said: I think you are falling into the conspiracy trap. You are starting at a conclusion and asking the other party to prove it’s not true. There is a god prove it’s not true, the earth is flat prove it’s not true, aliens abducted me prove it’s not true, Jack has fallen off the wagon proves it’s not true. You haven’t gone the final step saying he’s fell of the wagon but you are treading a fine line. Why isn’t the most simple answer that he’s still struggling with his injury like the club has told us? The rest is rumours of rumours and an article about some player addicted to sleeping drugs and then something else about other drugs. No mention of Jack. We’ve heard he’s in rehab yet we have seen pictures of him over the last month...at the game the other day. If evidence comes out then fine but at the moment it’s modern communication that wants the story to be more than it is because then it’s something to talk about. The only evidence we have that he might take drugs is the clothes he wears because surely nobody would wear clothes like that if they weren’t high I do agree with what you say, but just disagreeing with anyone shooting it down 100%. No real evidence it is true, but as a rumour suggestion goes, it's not quite as far fetched as saying the world is flat. It's just believable enough to possibly be true, and as suggested above, fuelled partly by the clubs stealthy operating model and Jack's past (arguably recent if you look at his driving during lockdown 1). Throw in the fact Jack is a world class England talent of a generation and the media and public love to bring them down by any means necessary. I stand by, probably isn't true, but it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Read on one of the paper talk sections that Man City have discovered there's a release clause in Jacks contract now wtf would we do that after what happened with Delph? Its laughable really. If all it takes to be a sports journalist make up ludicrous bull$### all the time, I reckon I might give it a go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) Regarding these rumours about Jack addicted to painkillers etc. I have just heard through an player who have left us recently that it is true.It’s not that surprising.I think he has been playing with pain for quite a while now and been managing it with painkillers. With lockdown he has been unable to go out and is probably extremely bored at home. With the right rehab he will get over it. Edited April 18, 2021 by Only2McInallys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: No real evidence it is true, but as a rumour suggestion goes, it's not quite as far fetched as saying the world is flat. It's just believable enough to possibly be true, Don’t you think that’s wrong though that you’re willing to go that far without evidence, just a bunch of things that might be possible. Close to believing something is true without a scrap of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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