MessiWillSignForVilla Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) O'Neill confirmed he wanted to call him up but Jack has declined, so that's that then, England it is :-( Saw something on RTE where their sports analyst said Jack would turn them down as he doesn't like MON/Keane and thinks they would be bad for his career. Dunno how true it is, will try find the article. Here it is, http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2015/0511/700399-dunphy-martin-oneill-is-insulting-jack-grealish/? Turns out it was just the guys opinion, so may not be strictly correct Edited May 12, 2015 by MessiWillSignForVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Didn't Jack praise Keane when he was here, saying he's the one who brought him up to the first team training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 That is Dunphy, his opinion while always entertaining should not be taken serious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 where has Dunphy got the MON saying he's not ready to play scotland stuff from? if thats true then thats ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Not surprised If Roy called him up i reckon he would have accepted it. He was born here so was his dad, his missus and his mates. I reckon he wants to represent tHis country. Edited May 12, 2015 by Reivax_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 But asked whether it was regrettable that Grealish was unlikely to be available for the side’s upcoming vital Euro 2016 qualifier at home to Scotland in June, O’Neill gave a forthright response. “Well, no it isn’t,” he is quoted as saying in The Sunday Times. “I’m not so sure I would be ready to put that type of pressure on some young kid just because he made his mind up to play for us. The game [against Scotland] is too big.” think that was Sunday Times before Liverpool game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skarroki Posted May 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2015 No pressure against Liverpool in a semifinal, but playing against Scotland, that might crush him under the weight of expectancy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 But asked whether it was regrettable that Grealish was unlikely to be available for the side’s upcoming vital Euro 2016 qualifier at home to Scotland in June, O’Neill gave a forthright response. “Well, no it isn’t,” he is quoted as saying in The Sunday Times. “I’m not so sure I would be ready to put that type of pressure on some young kid just because he made his mind up to play for us. The game [against Scotland] is too big.” think that was Sunday Times before Liverpool game Mons vaunted motivational and man management skills not very evident here. Combine this with how Keane was talking about Tekkers the other day and considering one was lambos role model and the other his assistant it becomes clearer every day why our performances looked bereft of belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 No pressure against Liverpool in a semifinal, but playing against Scotland, that might crush him under the weight of expectancy Villa fans didn't expect him to do anything great against Liverpool. After his recent performances, Ireland fans might. I can see the logic, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 BTW I accept one cannot know for sure that there was insufficient praise and confidence in the players from lambo but if you put results, performances, and this sort of stuff, together, then compare to now, it does suggest it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I hope he declares international retirement, then he can just play for villa until he's 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 No pressure against Liverpool in a semifinal, but playing against Scotland, that might crush him under the weight of expectancy Villa fans didn't expect him to do anything great against Liverpool. After his recent performances, Ireland fans might. I can see the logic, to be honest. I don't follow that.....grealish has been, rightly or wrongly, hailed as a possible saviour all season by a fair proportion of fans, and had put in some decent performances. I think if he could cope with coming into the middle of a relegation battle he could cope with Ireland v Scotland. And as Sherwood has shown, it is down to the manager to give him the belief to overcome that pressure. Anyhow, who cares which international side he plays for or why he doesn't, I just want him fit and playing here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw95 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Relating to the last page, it's worth noting Young had a spell playing in a free role and also played there for England for a time so it's not like MON only ever played him as a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 doesnt matter how he's playing or what fans expectations are, this was the chance to put it to bed, the last 30 seconds vs scotland and the debate is over, he doesnt even have to touch the ball, if MON has decided not to call him up because he thinks that's not worth it because the game is too important then he's an idiot and as stubborn as ever if jack has rejected the call up then fairy muff if ireland havent twisted then i wouldnt expect england to either, not sure when the squad is called up but i'll be amazed if he gets the nod from roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtysanchez Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Not surprised If Roy called him up i reckon he would have accepted it. He was born here so was his dad, his missus and his mates. I reckon he wants to represent tHis country. The one he's represented at all under age level so far is it? Oh wait..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Brilliant news. Let's hope England give him a call up and include Delph and Cleverley in the side too. Edited May 12, 2015 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 No pressure against Liverpool in a semifinal, but playing against Scotland, that might crush him under the weight of expectancy Villa fans didn't expect him to do anything great against Liverpool. After his recent performances, Ireland fans might. I can see the logic, to be honest. The quote was before the Liverpool game though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Brilliant news. Let's hope England give him a call up and include Delph and Cleverley in the side too. Yeah because our players getting call ups usually works out well for us, doesn't it? Sod that - change your mind and go for Ireland,Jack! Before it's too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 He said recently he wants to go back and play for Noel King's U21s at the start of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybread Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 MARTIN O’NEILL ANNOUNCED his Ireland squad for the games against Northern Ireland, Scotland and England today, and Jack Grealish was conspicuous by his absence. The Aston Villa starlet had been heavily linked with the squad after a series of fine performances at club level. Below is a transcript of today’s press conference in which O’Neill discussed Grealish and his reasons for declining the offer of a place in the Ireland squad. Martin, no Jack Grealish in the squad. There was speculation that he would be. Can you enlighten us as to any developments? I spoke to both Jack and his father. I think Jack just didn’t want to make his mind up at this stage. He wanted to complete the season at Aston Villa. There are some important games for them coming up and he wants to make his decision some time in the future. Are you disappointed by that response? Yeah, I suppose I am. He’s been doing very well recently and it would have been nice but that’s Jack’s decision. You would have included him for these games? Yes, yes. I spoke to the father and said I would like to have brought him in but of course you don’t want to force someone who might not want to make that decision just at this moment. What’s your feeling, do you think he will declare for Ireland? Do you know what, I really don’t know at this stage. I’m sure there’s still a good possiblity. Did you change your mind since saying you thought the Scotland game might be a bit early for him? Of course. He has played a lot of games since then. He had not been a regular member of the team and when he did, he was generally a sub, but here under Tim Sherwood he has started quite a number of games. Not that I would start pre-empting Tim’s teams but when he did, he’s made a very good impression from the start. Obviously as these games go along, he’ll get fitter as well too by starting matches. He seems to be lasting longer in the games too and doing a lot of good work. Of course, yes, the last four or five weeks have made a big difference obviously to Jack’s career and obviously to my thinking. Do you still think that the Scotland game might have been too big for him? I think that’s hypothetical now so it doesn’t really matter at this stage. At the time that I was dealing with it, with him not playing very much football, I think my answer was pretty obvious. I’m not even sure that Jack would have realised that he would play the number of games that he has done since, and also in quick succession too so he’s getting a really good feel of Premier League football and making an impression as well too. All of those things that maybe five weeks ago might not have been in anyone’s consideration, of course there’s a very natural change… If he had not been involved in these five or six games, then I’m sure that the game against Scotland would have been rather tougher at that time. Now that he’s getting used to it, it’s a different decision. When he accepted the [FAI U21] award, he said he’d like to come back in a green shirt at U21 level. Do you think that’s still the route? I don’t know. At the time, again, I think he was just getting into the Villa team. Now he’s not only part of the squad but seemingly part of the team and people’s aspirations change a little bit during the course of weeks, never mind months. That might be something that he might look at differently but he did say that he did not want to make a decision now. From our own point of view we would have brought him in, still wouldn’t have wanted to put a great deal of pressure on him. We wouldn’t have minded him training with us for the week leading up to the England game, being part of that match, but still not having to worry about making a decision for Scotland. Disappointing in that aspect. Do you think England will want him? I have no idea. I think you’ll have to ask Roy [Hodgson]. But do you think he’s good enough now? You’ll have to ask Roy. I do not want to sound as if England are miles better than us but I think it would be difficult for him to get into the England squad at this particular moment. What can you or the FAI do to attract players of first- or second-generation? I think we’re doing ok. At the time there was a bit of concern that Roy [Keane]‘s comments about his dad might have scuppered any chance of him coming to play for Ireland. Did his dad mention that at all? No, he definitely did not. I wouldn’t have thought that. I think he would have treated that in a jocular fashion. Absolutely not, he never mentioned it at all. Did his dad have much of an influence in the decision or was it Jack’s decision? I think it would be unfair of me to give a definitive answer on that one. I really don’t know. [later] Martin, just back to the Jack Grealish situation for a moment, do you think by revealing today that you wanted him to join the squad that it will force his hand? I don’t think it’s an attempt to preempt anything. I think Jack had mentioned before in fairness to him that he didn’t want to make a decision at that time. My point was then, since he wasn’t a regular member of the side, it seemed less important at that stage. I still think, regardless of that, that bringing him into the squad for a week’s training to see how he gets on is obviously an attempt to see that the FAI will look after him. I think they have done at every level but at the end of the day he has done well enough at Aston Villa to be thought of as a promising young player. Do you feel rebuffed? I don’t, no. I don’t take it personally. Was the delay to today’s press conference because you were in negotiations with Jack and his father? Not necessarily, no. It might have been a few other issues. I’m really sorry I’ve kept you waiting. I’m not sure if you’re aware of comments made by Eamon Dunphy last night who said the Irish camp have been insulting and disrespectful towards Jack in their handling of the situation. Would you like to respond? I’ve no idea what he said. That the way Ireland had conducted their approach and their relationship with Jack was insulting and disrespectful? And Eamon said that? That’s good enough for me. http://www.the42.ie/martin-oneill-jack-grealish-transcript-2098583-May2015/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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