weedman Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 38 minutes ago, Bunnski said: I thought he was more Irish than English but found that one out the hard way when he jumped ship. Had he ever even been to Ireland except to play football? I'm English and Australian but my great great something was Scottish and if they called me and asked me to play for them I probably would (for the experience), but if I had to make a choice between England/Australia or Scotland I'd drop Scotland in a heartbeat Jack isn't Irish, he's a Brummie who just happens to be eligible to play for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2021 This season would be a bad year for us to be selling as well. We've basically got 1 club apparently making an offer. Next summer you would think that some European Giants get a bit more back to normal, could have a few clubs fighting for him. He WILL have a blinder next season, if we fail to get Europe who knows how much he's worth in more normal times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 13:14, DaveAV1 said: They’d have to throw an extra £50m in to get us to take Sterling. How much did Stephen Ireland cost us in terms of lost transfer cash we could have spent better and wasted wages? Don't want any teams cast offs in part exchange. Not that Sterling would ever agree to come here anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 13:22, TheMelvillan said: After all the bad times, relegations, crap managers, crap teammates, criminal and/or incompetent owners, thrown cabbages, cancelled goal of the month competitions, Incredible really that after all that we're up in arms about potentially losing a player for £100m. We've sure had a few sliding doors moments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, weedman said: Had he ever even been to Ireland except to play football His family are more Irish than seems to be let on. As a kid, Jack played Gaelic Football and even played it in Croke Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, weedman said: Had he ever even been to Ireland except to play football? I'm English and Australian but my great great something was Scottish and if they called me and asked me to play for them I probably would (for the experience), but if I had to make a choice between England/Australia or Scotland I'd drop Scotland in a heartbeat Jack isn't Irish, he's a Brummie who just happens to be eligible to play for them It shows his character. I'd love to see him stay at Villa and become a club icon but it's very possible that he chooses to leave for a more established team competing at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 14:11, maqroll said: I wonder what an all-time "One Club Starting XI" would look like... Maldini Totti Le Tissier Raul? Iniesta help me out, guys Steve Bull would definitely be in there. As kitman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 15:11, MotoMkali said: Damn it. It's so hard. I thought he was a youth player. Ugh. He did have. Just played for other clubs before rejoining them. Damnit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, weedman said: Jack isn't Irish, he's a Brummie who just happens to be eligible to play for them This is a bit of an oversimplification. There's a huge Irish community in Birmingham, and as such there are many Brummies who support Ireland over England. As has been pointed out by someone else, Jack's background is certainly more Irish than a lot of people seem to realise. Tbh its never really sat right with me that he switched back to England after representing Ireland and having just been presented with their young player of the year award. It's his choice of course, but if you want to represent England then you should do so right from youth level, not switch allegiances after another country has invested signficant time and money into your development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted June 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, icouldtelltheworld said: This is a bit of an oversimplification. There's a huge Irish community in Birmingham, and as such there are many Brummies who support Ireland over England. As has been pointed out by someone else, Jack's background is certainly more Irish than a lot of people seem to realise. Tbh its never really sat right with me that he switched back to England after representing Ireland and having just been presented with their young player of the year award. It's his choice of course, but if you want to represent England then you should do so right from youth level, not switch allegiances after another country has invested signficant time and money into your development Countries pick players no money or time is invested in a players development! That is down to Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam2003 Posted June 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, icouldtelltheworld said: Tbh its never really sat right with me that he switched back to England after representing Ireland and having just been presented with their young player of the year award. It's his choice of course, but if you want to represent England then you should do so right from youth level, not switch allegiances after another country has invested signficant time and money into your development Nationality and identity are tough things in this day and age. I wouldn’t expect any 16 year old from a multinational family or one with a history of migration to know exactly how they would see themselves 5 or 10 years later. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) I see the story's on the net are now changing from Grealish leaving for City to Villa are now opening contract talks with Grealish or doing our hardest to keep Grealish. Edited June 26, 2021 by Dave-R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Kane this season Grealish next session makes sense to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Just now, Nicho said: Kane this season Grealish next session makes sense to me. Grealish’s next session will be the day after we get knocked out of the Euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: I'm one of those that's an Aston Villa fan first and then I'll have an affinity for the players. If Jack Grealish leaves he's no longer a villa player therefore like all the other opposition players will be booed by me. Aston Villa shouldn't give a toss about jack's career unless it's it with us do you think he'd deliberately miss for his team that need a win if presented with a chance that means we get relegated? All this one man club nonsense is a load of hogwash. Footballers want to earn as much money as they can and win as many trophies as they can. Totti won titles at Roma and they were seen as title challengers for most of his Roma career. Personally, I wouldn’t ever boo Grealish. The club is bigger than him and, at the same time, he must do what he feels is best for him. I feel it’s OK to want what’s best for Villa and also for Grealish. Let’s face it, he’s got a better chance of winning things elsewhere than at Villa. This doesn’t mean I think he’ll leave but, if he does, I’m fine with it. Good luck to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 Crazy how Talksport has got us all rattled, but if they were to say we were signing Josh King for example, we'd laugh them off as clickbait rubbish. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, bobzy said: Personally, I wouldn’t ever boo Grealish. The club is bigger than him and, at the same time, he must do what he feels is best for him. I feel it’s OK to want what’s best for Villa and also for Grealish. Let’s face it, he’s got a better chance of winning things elsewhere than at Villa. This doesn’t mean I think he’ll leave but, if he does, I’m fine with it. Good luck to him. Agreed. I will never boo Jack. He's one of our own. It's clear as day from their comments & conduct since leaving Villa that Barry, Delph et al couldn't give a **** about this club, but we all know how much Grealish loves the club. If he goes I'll be gutted. Devastated even. But I'll never boo him. Edited June 27, 2021 by est1874 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 It's going to hurt. But if it happens it'll be the first time we will benefit as a club for a long time. Getting 100mill in will transform us in terms of what we can spend. You don't replace jack, but that kind of money helps you build something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 hours ago, villan_007 said: It's going to hurt. But if it happens it'll be the first time we will benefit as a club for a long time. Getting 100mill in will transform us in terms of what we can spend. You don't replace jack, but that kind of money helps you build something new. 100 million buys 2 x Ben Whites in today's market. It's rubbish. Grealish worth more than that in marketing value alone 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: 100 million buys 2 x Ben Whites in today's market. It's rubbish. Grealish worth more than that in marketing value alone This. In terms of moving forward, a large part of that is becoming a global brand. For Villa, Jack can be (in terms of awareness of the club) a Beckham-esque figure. As a player you might put his value at 100m, but as a marketing asset his value far exceeds that, especially for a club that sorely lacks a global identity. And yes, I hate talking about our club and football in these terms. I grew up in an era when a footballer had a testimonial at retirement then bought a pub. Football has become something very different and there are large parts of that I detest. But I’d still rather win than be on the right side of that moral argument since our opponents clearly don’t give a shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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