wazzap24 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 29/08/2019 at 06:57, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: How good does the Joker look They might as well give him all the best actor awards now. Looks amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know what the deal is with The Joker after this film? Will it be a continuation of his story with other films? Or is it just a one off showing some origins of how he became the person he is. I really like the style and atmosphere to it. But it's never going to work in a Superhero Universe if they try and carry the story on imo. Edited August 30, 2019 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 57 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Does anyone know what the deal is with The Joker after this film? Will it be a continuation of his story with other films? Or is it just a one off showing some origins of how he became the person he is. I really like the style and atmosphere to it. But it's never going to work in a Superhero Universe if they try and carry the story on imo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(2019_film) Quote it is intended to launch DC Black, a series of DC-based films separate from the DC Extended Universe (DCEU). Quote Development of a standalone Joker film began in 2016 and was confirmed in August 2017, after Warner Bros. and DC Films decided to deemphasize the shared nature of the DCEU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 In an attempt to make them less crappy I assume. Good call. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, 8pints said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_(2019_film) That's kinda cool. If they make a Superhero Universe with this sort of dark tone then I'd be well into it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: Does anyone know what the deal is with The Joker after this film? Will it be a continuation of his story with other films? Or is it just a one off showing some origins of how he became the person he is. I really like the style and atmosphere to it. But it's never going to work in a Superhero Universe if they try and carry the story on imo. It's a completely separate take on the characters origin. It's partly inspired by an actual comic, the Killing Joke, but pretty much only in its premise. It's not going to form a universe (or at least not intended to) and it's unrelated to the other DC stuff Warner Bros has done. It isn't intended to be given a sequel either. The idea of doing standalone DC movies that aren't ostensibly connected to anything is a bit like the Elseworlds comics they used to do, where they would take a character and do something unusual with them, stuff like Superman: Red Son, which basically had the premise of 'what if Superman was raised in the USSR?'. This film is basically 'let's do a character study of how someone could become the Joker'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Designer1 said: Eh... I dunno with this. The Terminator series ends well with 2. After that, with Cameron not really caring and Schwarzenegger aging the films become increasingly hokey (Genisys, ugh, being legitimately one of the worst films I've seen in a cinema I think) and this doesn't really escape that. Tim Miller is a good director and getting Hamilton back is a good move, but... We've kinda done Terminator, and Cameron's shadow is so heavily over it all that it pales in comparison. I've no doubt, with Miller's ability, that this will have some good action, but Cameron's best stuff has great action and weight, and even his flabby ponderous style doesn't harm it. There's none of that weight here, none of that feeling that you're watching a juggernaut helmed by a master. It's just a sci fi action film in Terminator cosplay. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Very old timey British looking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Chindie said: It's a completely separate take on the characters origin. It's partly inspired by an actual comic, the Killing Joke, but pretty much only in its premise. It's not going to form a universe (or at least not intended to) and it's unrelated to the other DC stuff Warner Bros has done. It isn't intended to be given a sequel either. The idea of doing standalone DC movies that aren't ostensibly connected to anything is a bit like the Elseworlds comics they used to do, where they would take a character and do something unusual with them, stuff like Superman: Red Son, which basically had the premise of 'what if Superman was raised in the USSR?'. This film is basically 'let's do a character study of how someone could become the Joker'. I’d love them to delve into the Elseworlds stuff. They were some of my favourite Batman one-shot/mini-series. Gotham By Gaslight (and the sequel, Master Of The Future) Leatherwing Red Rain/Bloodstorm/Crimson Mist Scar Of The Bat All really good stories that could be made into films. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: I’d love them to delve into the Elseworlds stuff. They were some of my favourite Batman one-shot/mini-series. Gotham By Gaslight (and the sequel, Master Of The Future) Leatherwing Red Rain/Bloodstorm/Crimson Mist Scar Of The Bat All really good stories that could be made into films. Gotham by Gaslight would be pretty good in fairness. They'd never do it of course, but Victorian Batman galavanting around London, good stuff... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted August 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2019 We’re just going to ignore that judging from the trailer, the Joker’s first crime was apparently stealing Bob Monkhouse’s joke book? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 18 hours ago, Chindie said: Eh... I dunno with this. The Terminator series ends well with 2. After that, with Cameron not really caring and Schwarzenegger aging the films become increasingly hokey (Genisys, ugh, being legitimately one of the worst films I've seen in a cinema I think) and this doesn't really escape that. Tim Miller is a good director and getting Hamilton back is a good move, but... We've kinda done Terminator, and Cameron's shadow is so heavily over it all that it pales in comparison. I've no doubt, with Miller's ability, that this will have some good action, but Cameron's best stuff has great action and weight, and even his flabby ponderous style doesn't harm it. There's none of that weight here, none of that feeling that you're watching a juggernaut helmed by a master. It's just a sci fi action film in Terminator cosplay. The bale one was the right idea executed poorly (I liked it too, the trailer giving the story away was **** stupid) Rather than playing with time travel still and rewriting it all and pissing over the original films legacy just move it forward, give us a world in the future where the machines have won and the show the resistance, far more to play with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 OUATIH - feeligns very much undecided. There was entertainment and one big laugh towards the very end, otherwise it was just very meh. Didn't dislike it, Pitt and di Caprio are great and have fun, but so much ploddy baggage. Take a 3rd off most of the scenes and it'd at least seem more fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Gotham by Gaslight was almost a game. And they made an animation Another Elseworlds book I think would make a good movie is JSA: The Golden Age Quote Some of the greatest heroes of the 1940s, including the original Green Lantern, Atom, Hawkman, Starman and others return in this spectacular Elseworlds tale. The story follows their postwar adventures as they battle evil in a world they fear may no longer need them. And as their importance wanes, a new hero, Dynaman, rallies the nation behind his fascist agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Saw once upon a time..... yesterday and really enjoyed it (although half the time I was scanning the screen for all the cameos!) it was long and drawn out in places but it was a typical Tarantino dialogue fuelled movie, ably fronted by both Pitt and DiCaprio who were both great to watch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 22 hours ago, Rodders said: OUATIH - feeligns very much undecided. There was entertainment and one big laugh towards the very end, otherwise it was just very meh. Didn't dislike it, Pitt and di Caprio are great and have fun, but so much ploddy baggage. Take a 3rd off most of the scenes and it'd at least seem more fluid. the acting was good but the plot was very meh and i am being generous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I watched a good film a few months back, 'The Exterminating Angel' by a director called by Luis Buñuel. ' A group of high-society friends are invited to a mansion for dinner and find themselves inexplicably unable to leave, in Luis Buñuel’s daring masterpiece The Exterminating Angel (El ángel exterminador). Made just one year after the director’s international sensation Viridiana, this film, full of eerie comic absurdity, continues Buñuel’s wicked takedown of the rituals and dependencies of the frivolous upper classes.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted September 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2019 Watched this again tonight. Powell and Pressburger at their absolute best. One of my favourite films of all time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2019 This tonight. I have a slightly irrational love of this film. I know it's got a load of hokey stuff in it (the accents, the very arch acting from a lot of the cast, it's incredibly 80s inflected lovelorn Goth tone, the divergence from the book...) but it's just... Well it's Gary Oldman having a whale of a time supported by Anthony Hopkins chewing the scenery for all is worth, and it's made with fantastic art design and mood. I still think the weird werewolf/bat-man version of Dracula in this is one of the most curiously haunting and brilliant designs for Dracula in anything. And of course it's got 90s Winona Ryder, mmm. And Sadie Frost. It's **** brilliant. Even with all its flaws, it's great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withnail Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, Chindie said: This tonight. I have a slightly irrational love of this film. I know it's got a load of hokey stuff in it (the accents, the very arch acting from a lot of the cast, it's incredibly 80s inflected lovelorn Goth tone, the divergence from the book...) but it's just... Well it's Gary Oldman having a whale of a time supported by Anthony Hopkins chewing the scenery for all is worth, and it's made with fantastic art design and mood. I still think the weird werewolf/bat-man version of Dracula in this is one of the most curiously haunting and brilliant designs for Dracula in anything. And of course it's got 90s Winona Ryder, mmm. And Sadie Frost. It's **** brilliant. Even with all its flaws, it's great. 100% in agreement. Love the beginning sequence. The soundtrack is excellent as well. I also have a irrational fondness for Richard E Grant. Keanu is woeful but I just love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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