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45 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

Didn't Quantum of Solace have similar trouble?  That turned out a steaming pile of dogturd.  It's weird, I think Craig has been a decent Bond but his films have been below par.

Q of S was hit by the writers strike meaning Craig and the director had to rewrite lots of it ... it wasn’t intended to follow on from Casino Royale as much as it did , so I’m not sure what the original intention for it was ?

it was on tv the other day , I don’t think it’s terrible tbh and I probably prefer it over Spectre that I thought was rather meh 

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59 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said:

Didn't Quantum of Solace have similar trouble?  That turned out a steaming pile of dogturd.  It's weird, I think Craig has been a decent Bond but his films have been below par.

Yes it was caught up in the screenwriters guild strike. IIRC they took a unfinished script by the credited screenwriters, tweaked it on the fly, and filmed the whole thing very quickly. And suitably it was a bit shit.

I think Craig has had similar luck to Brosnan with the films. Brosnan started out with a cracker (and GoldenEye really shouldn't have been as good as it was, it was cobbled together with bits of Cold War era stuff and weird soundtrack and so on), had a couple of middling films and a stinker. Craig starts with one of the best films in the series, follows it with a stinker that happens to be an out and out sequel, follows that with a weird celebration movie sits bizarrely with it's predecessors and is just a bit strange, and follows that with a bad homage to the Moore era with a Bond completely unlike Moore that also tries to retcon the previous films together on a hamfisted attempt at that Marvel dollar universe stuff.

I also don't really like him as Bond in all honesty. I love Casino Royale, and he is very good in it, but everything afterwards is a mess. He's actively unlikable in Quantum, Skyfall does the 'too old for this shit' bollocks, and Spectre he just looks like he'd rather by using a cheese grater to his testicles. I genuinely think Brosnan was better.

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Venom - usual Marvel shite.  And it is utter, utter, utter shite.  Fairly poor attempt at humour, and then not much happening before the inevitable big fight at the end.  Rubbish. 2.34/10

Hunter Killer.  Fairly average submariney action thriller.  Gerard Butler is Gerard Butler.  A bit like Hunt for Red October with more shooting.  4.68/10

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33 minutes ago, Risso said:

Venom - usual Marvel shite.  And it is utter, utter, utter shite.  Fairly poor attempt at humour, and then not much happening before the inevitable big fight at the end.  Rubbish. 2.34/10

It’s not marvel

But thinking it was Marvel and you clearly don’t like marvel stuff why put yourself through it? 

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1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said:

It’s not marvel

But thinking it was Marvel and you clearly don’t like marvel stuff why put yourself through it? 

From Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_(2018_film). "Venom is a 2018 American superhero film based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name, produced by Columbia Pictures in association with Marvel and Tencent Pictures. Distributed by Sony Pictures Releasing, it is the first film in Sony's Marvel Universe, adjunct to the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)."  

But whatever, there's probably all sorts of geeky reasons that it's not an *actual* Marvel film.  Felt like one though.  And, in answer to your second question:

Kids.

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8 hours ago, villa4europe said:

Bond 25 production title is Shatterhand

An alias of Blofeld from you only live twice though waltz has previously said he wouldn’t reprise the role  so it might have to be a new Blofeld ?

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Watched a documentary called Valley Uprising on Netflix last night - all about the history of climbing at Yosemite. It was good fun and fascinating. I mean, they're all mentalists, but it's interesting to hear the stories from the early rivalries and then seeing the escalating generational one upmanship from climbing with ropes and hooks to free soloing ( GET DOWN, YOU MAD BASTARD  ) and freebasing being the new thing it seems. Unsurprisingly, one of the characters in the lineage of this tale succumbed to the inevitable, but otherwise its astonishing. 

Looking forward to checking out Free Solo when that hits the cinemas here soon.

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17 hours ago, tonyh29 said:

Q of S was hit by the writers strike meaning Craig and the director had to rewrite lots of it ... it wasn’t intended to follow on from Casino Royale as much as it did , so I’m not sure what the original intention for it was ?

it was on tv the other day , I don’t think it’s terrible tbh and I probably prefer it over Spectre that I thought was rather meh 

Agree. Q of S wasn’t great but it was ok. 

It’s miles better than Spectre which was one of the dullest bond movies I’ve ever seen. 

 

It peaked at Casino Royale

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Daniel Craig has made 2 good Bonds and 2 utter drivel Bonds. I have no hopes for Shitterhand. 

Casino Royale and Skyfall are decent editions to good Bond films but QofS and Spectre were very poor.

Not convinced by Craig as Bond either. He had a perma-pout on, looking like he’s about to take a selfie with his Q issued fountain pen camera. 

He’s possibly the 2nd worst Bond for me, with only Lazenby (although OHMSS wasn’t that bad) worse. 

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1 hour ago, wazzap24 said:

I thought Skyfall was brilliant. The best of the DC bond movies imo. 

Skyfall is weird. There's elements of it that are great, and theres stuff that's shite, and comes off as this bizarre hodge podge where it wants to be a modern Bond movie but also wants to pay homage to the series.

It spends forever with the 'too old for this shit' stuff, then basically dumps it. The plot is way too reliant on things like 'he wanted to be captured!' and 'computers are magic'. It has a grim attitude to women, even for a Bond film (Berenice Marlohe's character arc is awful). Bardem's villain is shite, completely unthreatening and only relevant in that he's probably the first Bond villain to try to intimidate Bond by coming on to him. Some of the CGI is absolutely awful (Bardem's reveal of his disfigurement I'm convinced was done by a work experience kid, it looks like something from the Dreamcast era). It's odd homage stuff sits weirdly and drags you out of the film (oh look it's the DB5! Cool! ... Wait. Why does he have a car from the 60s?). The end is silly. Fun but silly. The stuff with M is completely unearned and while Judi Dench was always excellent in an under served role, the weird Bond's unspoken devotion to her is completely bizarre. And it's too long. And the theme song sucks.

On the other hand, it's generally absolutely gorgeous. The action is pretty good across the board (save maybe the Shanghai fight, which looks too choreographed and gets a bit lost in the cinematography). It's well made throughout. The acting is good and about as good as can be with some of the rubbish given (Bardem's completely bollocksed by the script).

It's a strange film. I can see why some people really like it, but the moment you start to scrape away at any of it it completely falls apart.

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Bohemian Rhapsody, a film with editing so bad it has a short dialogue scene with dozens of bizarre cuts that pretty much became a meme, wins an Oscar for Best Editing.

The Oscars are basically absurd at this point.

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Yep, I like Green Book too, but for a film that has only a superficial look at race relations in the US, to then beat in the same category Black Klansmann for pity's sake is just one monumental absurdity. The latter is thoroughly entertaining too, combining, humour horror and drama with contemporary relevance. Heck even Black Panther would have been a more suitable nod.

But all awards are just lobbying farces, some more farcical than others. That said, I'm always pleased when I film I like gets recognised anyway. Spiderman Into the Spiderverse was a well deserved win. That was an excellent film. Can't argue with the actor or actress nods really, they were all really close and could have gone to any of them.

Again, despite being fully aware of the nonsense of it all, I still can't believe Ryan Gosling didn't win even a nomination for First Man. For me it was such a good performance, perhaps he was hoisted by his own petard of doing so many other brooding quiet man roles beforehand.

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The biggest problem with Bond, that I've said on here before, is they're heading back in the direction of absurd gadgets and women and style and over the top action.

Casino Royale was good because it rather blatantly ripped off the style of Bourne. It should have stayed on that route, imo. Made it a much darker version of Bond and carried on in that vein.

Instead it's gone back to flash cars and stupid gadgets and the story is weak as a result.

Spectre was one of the worst Bonds ever, imo. Which means Craig has done the full spectrum in my eyes. From one of the best Bonds ever in Casino Royale, through average Bonds like QoS right down to plain awful in Spectre.

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1 hour ago, Chindie said:

Bohemian Rhapsody, a film with editing so bad it has a short dialogue scene with dozens of bizarre cuts that pretty much became a meme, wins an Oscar for Best Editing.

The Oscars are basically absurd at this point.

Not seen the film, so I can’t comment, but just on the off chance it wasn’t posted in here before, over 50 cuts in 1 minute and 22 seconds.

 

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3 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said:

Not seen the film, so I can’t comment, but just on the off chance it wasn’t posted in here before, over 50 cuts in 1 minute and 22 seconds.

 

That's the one. I'd have linked it myself but the only link I could find contained verboten words.

A film with that scene in it shouldn't be even thought of in best editing. It's genuinely awful.

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Into the Spider verse was a positive surprise, much better than I thought it would be. Apart from the teen rap-music and the drawn out fight scene at the end it was a nice watch. 7/10

 

Lords of Chaos was as expected. On it's own it's not a bad movie, but it strays a bit from the truth of what really happened (just like the book) and there is some strange choices made from Åkerlund. Like for example making Varg Vikernes chubby.

Even with some grim scenes it's no where as dark as the true events were and it feels a bit like any other "starting a band/rise to fame" movie, which is a bit off considering.

Still, if you are into black metal and interested in this story (it's a fascinating one) you might like it, or hate it :D 

I'm not sure, it's very uneven 6/10?

Lords of Chaos Poster

 

 

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