Villaphil Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 hours ago, paul514 said: Why on earth would we extend Digne's massive contract? When you have two 'older players' for a position you get rid of one for a younger option. It should be Digne due to wage and the fact Emery brought in Moreno. Kimmich........Not happening. Jack.......Not happening. Abraham, you may well be correct but who are you getting rid of? Contracted salaries, on renewal, can go down as well as up. Diaby turned down more money from Saudi. Maybe Lucas fancies a go at the Champions League ?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphil Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 5 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: Tammy Abraham links and ideas are just fan service. Wasn’t the deal to sign him all but done last year ? We didn’t go elsewhere for a striker, it’s not that ridiculous to suggest that is because we were prepared to wait 12 months ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphil Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 6 hours ago, villa4europe said: I'm not sure what signing araham would achieve, he's 26 now, coming off 2 poor years at Rome including a bad injury, would still be circa £20m and would be let's say a 4 year deal on £100k+ per week I can see an argument for him being better than what Duran is right now but by the end of his contract he wouldn't be Just don't see it as a forward thinking transfer, it's an easy safe transfer that ultimately wouldn't get us anywhere - and I think it's villa fans that constantly link us to him because the striker pool is so small right now he's just an easy name that we all know - personally I'm OK with Duran being back up but if we were insistent on getting say a 22 year old proper number 9 with bags of potential I don't know who that is, if it was a goal scoring wide man or number 10 I could shout some names out but a number 9 I haven't got a clue, and that's the only reason Abrahams name pops up, not because he's realistic or good enough We don’t need back up next season, we won’t be able to rest players in the Champs League, the way we did in Europe this year. We need someone who will be able to start multiple Premier League games, but accept, to begin with at least, they are behind Watkins for the big games. Don’t think Duran is there yet, in terms of fairly consistently starting in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Villaphil said: Wasn’t the deal to sign him all but done last year ? We didn’t go elsewhere for a striker, it’s not that ridiculous to suggest that is because we were prepared to wait 12 months ?? I’m not sure how true that claim is. But still the idea of us signing him just reeks as fan service click bait Edited April 21 by CarryOnVilla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, allani said: I am not sure that we'd be able to give him the playing time he wanted (but hopefully we will have a big European football carrot to wave in his face) but I think Solanke would enjoy playing in an Emery team. Would give us a bit more aerial threat against teams that play really deep. I'm not sure that Rogers and Duran couldn't fill the hole eventually but Solanke would slot in almost immediately. I'm sure Solanke will probably want to be a guaranteed starter but if we could persuade him that he'd get enough time for us and also get some minutes in Europe then it might be a good option. It is crazy that he's not even in the discussion for a place in the England squad. Solanke needs to be the main man at West Ham or somewhere. Bournemouth, even. If they remain on their current trajectory. Competing for a place in the same side as Ollie Watkins would be a poor decision, even if we did stump up the £ to do that deal. And with F unfair P still most def a thing and bigger priorities elsewhere for us, I can't see that one materialising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sun_never_sets Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I'd honestly be happy if we signed a top starting right back and noone else. With injuries returning and youngsters coming through we have some squad developing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Villaphil said: Contracted salaries, on renewal, can go down as well as up. Diaby turned down more money from Saudi. Maybe Lucas fancies a go at the Champions League ?? He's 30 years old with how many years left on his current deal? Unfortunately I think Saudi money now means this kind of logic won't be the case in football but an added couple of years security at Villa is worth being paid less for, as a calculated risk he stays with us until he's 34 on a reduced salary rather being paid more for 2 years then trying to secure a new contract elsewhere at say 32 years old I can genuinely see that happening The flip side of that is as good as he's been this season do villa really want another 4 years out of him? Personally I think the nonsense around his wages is overblown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: He's 30 years old with how many years left on his current deal? Unfortunately I think Saudi money now means this kind of logic won't be the case in football but an added couple of years security at Villa is worth being paid less for, as a calculated risk he stays with us until he's 34 on a reduced salary rather being paid more for 2 years then trying to secure a new contract elsewhere at say 32 years old I can genuinely see that happening The flip side of that is as good as he's been this season do villa really want another 4 years out of him? Personally I think the nonsense around his wages is overblown Pretty sure there’s only a finite number of squad places for marquee European players on those Saudi squads. After the flurry of last summer there’s unlikely to be the same demand again this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 5 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: Pretty sure there’s only a finite number of squad places for marquee European players on those Saudi squads. After the flurry of last summer there’s unlikely to be the same demand again this summer. Some of the players have clearly not enjoyed it over there, despite the money. Word will get around to other players and I'd be surprised if many take the Saudi option from now on. I think we would be mad to look past Digne and Moreno next season, they've both got another year at least of their prime and we can give Sousa another loan in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Villaphil said: Wasn’t the deal to sign him all but done last year ? We didn’t go elsewhere for a striker, it’s not that ridiculous to suggest that is because we were prepared to wait 12 months ?? He has played 12 league minutes this season, was poor last season Duran is ahead of him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 hours ago, grantholtgolazo said: Thanks, I’m aware what league we play in. I think you’re underestimating talent elsewhere, but setting that aside, who is going to defend against the better premier league wingers? Moreno, if he’s capable of returning to form of last season, can be effective going forward, but he’s not quick enough, big enough, or strong enough to defend consistently at our level. Then you are aware of the quality of PL teams vs the other 4 top leagues..... He does just fine in the PL, could we do better? Obviously but there are priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 hours ago, CVByrne said: Mings is a completely different profile of player to Torres. Mings is a ball winner, defensive CB while Torres is a progressive passer attack minded CB. They're perfect profile to play together. If we lost Torres to injury we'd lack his skillset once Lenglet returns to Barcelona. I think Torres Mings Konsa Frimpong is like the idea back 4 Moreno Torres Carlos Konsa another option. That type of symmetry I am aware that Pau is a more cultured player than Mings, he will however be our second choice left sided centre back next season, we would be better served selling Carlos, having just one older centre back and getting someone with Torres' skills to play as a right sided centre back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, allani said: I am not sure that we'd be able to give him the playing time he wanted (but hopefully we will have a big European football carrot to wave in his face) but I think Solanke would enjoy playing in an Emery team. Would give us a bit more aerial threat against teams that play really deep. I'm not sure that Rogers and Duran couldn't fill the hole eventually but Solanke would slot in almost immediately. I'm sure Solanke will probably want to be a guaranteed starter but if we could persuade him that he'd get enough time for us and also get some minutes in Europe then it might be a good option. It is crazy that he's not even in the discussion for a place in the England squad. Well the discussion goes Kane, Watkins.... are we even taking a third player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Villaphil said: Contracted salaries, on renewal, can go down as well as up. Diaby turned down more money from Saudi. Maybe Lucas fancies a go at the Champions League ?? He isn't up for renewal, yes he probably does fancy a go at the champions league, doesn't change that it would be financially better for us if he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Villaphil said: Wasn’t the deal to sign him all but done last year ? We didn’t go elsewhere for a striker, it’s not that ridiculous to suggest that is because we were prepared to wait 12 months ?? I'm quite happy with Duran as back up 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, the_sun_never_sets said: I'd honestly be happy if we signed a top starting right back and noone else. With injuries returning and youngsters coming through we have some squad developing! I think the young Eastern European right - back who we have signed might just be our regular full - back next season. This coaching team seem to have the right judgement when it comes to new signings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 One of Eze, Olise or Semenyo (from Bournemouth) please. I think we're 4 good signings away from a title run, when you think we've got Emi B, Tyrone, Ramsey, Kamara coming back sometime next season. A quality RB so we can keep Esri at CB and challenge Cashy. It would take another worldie season, against freak FC, but we'd be in the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) On 20/04/2024 at 11:56, bannedfromHandV said: Let’s assume that we don’t have to sell one of our top players in the summer, and let’s also assume that none ask to leave and/or are the subject of a crazy bid that we just can’t turn down. What do we need in the summer? This season has been somewhat helpful in that regard as we know where the gaps are. Definitely need a defensive midfielder to compete with Kamara, I think another centre midfielder (perhaps more versatile a la Tielemans) and then a forward (to play across the front positions), don’t think we need anything more with a new backup GK already here and the new RB inbound. In order of priority - DM - We have a bunch of players who can play the 8 role Luiz normally fills but without Kamara they all have to play in position worse for them. We also lack physicality in the middle and signing a more imposing DM could help us a lot on set pieces and vs more physical but less technically gifted teams like those we faced in the conference league. RB - For Obvious reasons, Cash is our weakest rotation player, and signing a better RB gives us more CB depth to as we can then play Konsa either at RB or RCB. LB - Digne and Moreno are both in their 30s. Now is the time to sell at least one. We don't want to end up at a point in 2-3 years time where they are both regressing and we can't find any buyers for them. 5th CB - Depending on where the club think Mings is, this one may need to be more regular than we might think but if Mings is good we only really just need one for depth (specifically Mings and Carlos injuries). Potentially if we sign someone like hermoso on a free he could fill in as both a LB and 5th choice CB, and would free us to sell both digne and Moreno and sign another attacking LB without compromising our defence. AFAIK we will also be forced into signing Ramsey and Archer and perhaps we can bring back philogene. If that is the case than that is probably all the attacking reinforcements we need. Edited April 21 by MotoMkali 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 More Morgan Rogers type signings please. No asbeens (Grealish, Abraham etc) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 35 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: More Morgan Rogers type signings please. No asbeens (Grealish, Abraham etc) I was just come to write we want more Rogers signings If we can find one or two we’d have done really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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