Musk's Twitter Purchase

[LondonLax]

9 minutes ago, sne said:

Truth Social  

MySpace has been patiently watching and waiting in the shadows for its moment to shine again.

[MakemineVanilla]

1 hour ago, bickster said:

Twitter is your own echo chamber, its the same for left andf right alike. Both sides deliberately filter out all the sensible moderating influences and jsut follow people on their side and butt heads with the people on the extreme of the other side.

There is no difference for left and right

But that doesn't explain why the right are laughing their tits off about Musk's cull, while the left are having a shit-fit.

 

[sne]

28 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

MySpace has been patiently watching and waiting in the shadows for its moment to shine again.

[LondonLax]

24 minutes ago, MakemineVanilla said:

But that doesn't explain why the right are laughing their tits off about Musk's cull, while the left are having a shit-fit.

 

It’s the other way around isn’t it? The left are laughing their asses off at the hash Musk is making of Twitter right now. 

I know I’ve got the popcorn in. 

[Davkaus]

2 hours ago, bickster said:

 

 

[Genie]

I am starting to think Elon doesn’t know how Twitter works  

[Chindie]

Twitter as a business doesn't work. And what Musk wants to do with it will make it work even less.

[bickster]

1 hour ago, MakemineVanilla said:

But that doesn't explain why the right are laughing their tits off about Musk's cull, while the left are having a shit-fit.

 

1. Musk is part of "the right"

2. The left aren't really having a shit fit, most of them really are laughing like drains at the stupidity of what Musk has done and is going to do. The left loves a right winger losing billions of dollars

3. It really isn't just "the left" talking about Musk / Twitter in a bad way, see Lou Paskalis tweets above. He's no lefty, he was someone Musk was talking to to help solve the advertising problem up until he called out Musk for talking bollocks

You appear to have a really bad take on the situation

[sidcow]

2 hours ago, LondonLax said:

MySpace has been patiently watching and waiting in the shadows for its moment to shine again.

Who on earth is still using MySpace? 

I thought it was the Betamax of the Social Media world.  Maybe Villatalk should make a bid for it? 

[bickster]

I've posted the account a few times before but the numpties who reply thinking its serious are just the best form of entertainment twitter has. Check the replies to the second tweet, the numbskull doubles down.

Note how how he doesn't even attempt to correct the bit about the mustangs and the B52, which are clearly a Hurricane, a Lancaster and a Spitfire

From his profile he's also a Brexiteer

This is what Twitter is for

[Mark Albrighton]

[maqroll]

Musk is a sloppy mess. What a shambles.

 

[maqroll]

Lefties talking up Mastadon as an alternative..I downloaded the app. It's not a pleasant UI at all.

[LondonLax]

 

 

[Rds1983]

 

[CVByrne]

12 hours ago, LondonLax said:

The clown car seems to have caught on fire

 

 

I do agree with him to a degree. Activists are controlling companies via threats. Cancel culture, extreme wokeness has gone too far. It's a "control the narrative" world now. Accusations are all that matter not facts or context.

There is no solving it though. It'll just breed more extremism on the right and that side will vote for nutjobs and are more prone to violence in response. It's just an escalation feedback loop. 

[Seat68]

23 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

I do agree with him to a degree. Activists are controlling companies via threats. Cancel culture, extreme wokeness has gone too far. It's a "control the narrative" world now. Accusations are all that matter not facts or context.

There is no solving it though. It'll just breed more extremism on the right and that side will vote for nutjobs and are more prone to violence in response. It's just an escalation feedback loop. 

What do you define as extreme wokeness?

[LondonLax]

23 minutes ago, CVByrne said:

I do agree with him to a degree. Activists are controlling companies via threats. Cancel culture, extreme wokeness has gone too far. It's a "control the narrative" world now. Accusations are all that matter not facts or context.

There is no solving it though. It'll just breed more extremism on the right and that side will vote for nutjobs and are more prone to violence in response. It's just an escalation feedback loop. 

'Activists' are not the issue. 'Actavists' make threats to boycott companies from both sides of the political spectrum.

Musks handling of this takeover is the issue. No respectable business wants to have their brand attached to a dumpster fire. 

[Davkaus]

1 hour ago, CVByrne said:

I do agree with him to a degree. Activists are controlling companies via threats. Cancel culture, extreme wokeness has gone too far. It's a "control the narrative" world now. Accusations are all that matter not facts or context.

There is no solving it though. It'll just breed more extremism on the right and that side will vote for nutjobs and are more prone to violence in response. It's just an escalation feedback loop. 

Or companies don't want their product advertised on an unmoderated platform being spammed by racial slurs. It's health and safety gone mad.

[Davkaus]

I found this quite an enjoyable read on the inevitable problems faced by a company trying to act as a platform for freeze peach. I think we're currently at step 3, much longer article worth a read. Didn't realise Techdirt was still going!

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you-speed-run-the-content-moderation-learning-curve/

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It’s kind of a rite of passage for any new social media network. They show up, insist that they’re the “platform for free speech” without quite understanding what that actually means, and then they quickly discover a whole bunch of fairly fundamental ideas, institute a bunch of rapid (often sloppy) changes… and in the end, they basically all end up in the same general vicinity, with just a few small differences on the margin. Look, I went through it myself. In the early days I insisted that sites shouldn’t do any moderation at all, including my own. But I learned. As did Parler, Gettr, Truth Social and lots of others

.Anyway, Elon’s in a bit of a different position, because rather than starting something new, he’s taken over a large platform. I recognize that he, his buddies, and a whole lot of other people think that Twitter is especially bad at this, and that he’s got some special ideas for “bringing free speech back,” but the reality is that Twitter was, by far, the most successful platform at taking a “we support free speech” stance for content, and learned over time the many nuances and tradeoffs involved.

And because I do hope that Musk succeeds and Twitter remains viable, I wanted to see if we might help him (and anyone else) speed run the basics of the content moderation learning curve that most newbies run into. The order of the levels and the seriousness of each can change over time, and how it all fits together may be somewhat different, but, in the end, basically every major social media platform ends up in this same place eventually (the place Twitter was already at when Musk insisted he needed to tear things down and start again).

Level One: “We’re the free speech platform! Anything goes!”

Cool. Cool. The bird is free! Everyone rejoice.

“Excuse me, boss, we’re getting reports that there are child sexual exploitation and abuse (CSAM) images and videos on the site.”

Oh shit. I guess we should take that down.

Level Two: “We’re the free speech platform! But no CSAM!”

Alright, comedy is now legal on the site. Everyone rejoice. Everyone love me.

“Um, boss. We have a huge stack of emails from Hollywood, saying something about DMCA takedowns?”

Oh right. Copyright infringement is bad. Get another intern and have them take that all down.

Level Three: “We’re the free speech platform! But no CSAM and no infringement!”

Power to the people. Freedom is great!

“Right, boss, apparently because you keep talking about freedom, a large group of people are taking it to mean they have ‘freedom’ to harass people with slurs and all sorts of abuse. People are leaving the site because of it, and advertisers are pulling ads.”

That seems bad. Quick, have someone write up some rules against hate speech.

Level Four: “We’re the free speech platform without CSAM, infringement or hate speech!”

Bringing freedom back is hard work, but this is all going great. Do the people love me yet?

“Hey, so, the FBI is here? Something about 18 USC 2258A and how we were supposed to report all of that CSAM to some operation called NCMEC?”

Ah, right. Grab an intern and make sure they pass along those images. We obey all the laws!

 

Edited November 5, 2022 by Davkaus