KentVillan Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Wondering what impact Elon Musk now being in charge of Twitter will have? He seems to indicate that he wants it to be a “free speech” site. We know where that led last time. Surely “free speech” on algo & bot amplified platforms has turned out to be hugely dangerous and not at all in keeping with the original concept of freedom of expression? But imagine Trump will be delighted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 Ah well there we go. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Presumably if Trump gets his twitter account back then his ‘Truth Social’ platform will die off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, KentVillan said: Wondering what impact Elon Musk now being in charge of Twitter will have? He seems to indicate that he wants it to be a “free speech” site. We know where that led last time. Surely “free speech” on algo & bot amplified platforms has turned out to be hugely dangerous and not at all in keeping with the original concept of freedom of expression? But imagine Trump will be delighted. One of his pledges was to clamp down on bots by upping the verification process and making it less anonymous. Not sure if it will work though, Facebook is less anonymous but still gets plagued with issues and needs to be heavily moderated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: One of his pledges was to clamp down on bots by upping the verification process and making it less anonymous. Not sure if it will work though, Facebook is less anonymous but still gets plagued with issues and needs to be heavily moderated. I doubt he wants to moderate it. The clamping down on bots is just bullshit. He'll more likely flood it with bots spouting whatever messages he wants to get across. Trump will be back in a jiffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 28, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, sidcow said: I doubt he wants to moderate it. The clamping down on bots is just bullshit. He'll more likely flood it with bots spouting whatever messages he wants to get across. Trump will be back in a jiffy. Depends what you mean by moderate. I think he may have a desire to get rid of the bots, hence the increased verification. Does he want to limit what people can say? No absolutely not. It'll be full of hate speech before you know it. And yes Trump will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 Musk buying twitter is a watershed moment. The Web needs more governance, not less. This will result in the rise of hate, lies and ignorance like no platform has in the history of humanity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, sidcow said: I doubt he wants to moderate it. The clamping down on bots is just bullshit. He'll more likely flood it with bots spouting whatever messages he wants to get across. Trump will be back in a jiffy. He’ll lose commercial revenue and access to hosting servers/Google&Apple stores if it becomes ‘TruthSocial’. The moderation Twitter had in place was done purely out of self interest to Twitter’s bottom line, not for altruistic reasons. Musk is going to hit those same buffers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LondonLax said: He’ll lose commercial revenue and access to hosting servers/Google&Apple stores if it becomes ‘TruthSocial’. The moderation Twitter had in place was done purely out of self interest to Twitter’s bottom line, not for altruistic reasons. Musk is going to hit those same buffers. His aim surely is to privatise political discourse. Any political movement will need the support of twitter, and will pay to enable the spread of an ideology. It is the zenith of the part of American politics that I abhor. Any lobbying group with enough money, regardless of how crackpot or, let's face it evil they are will be given power beyond their dreams, where in the past these idiots (flat earthers I'm looking at you) would have been dismissed in bar room discourse as utter buffoons. There is only one way for society when black=white and right=wrong. Edited October 28, 2022 by HKP90 Autocorrect. Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 I should qualify that I don't think that Elon Musk himself is on anyone's side, and I think that he beleives what he does is for the good of humanity, but for all his engineering and marketing genius, his biggest fault is that he does not understand people. He trusts in the character of people far far too much. And with his level of influence, it unfortunately makes him dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I’ll reserve judgment until I see what it becomes but he does have financial constraints. Musk took out huge loans to fund the purchase of Twitter and the interest on them is in the billions per year, paid for from Twitter’s revenues. If sponsors flee because it has become a toxic environment he’ll be in a bind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted October 28, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, LondonLax said: Presumably if Trump gets his twitter account back then his ‘Truth Social’ platform will die off? And twitter will die off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 It was a cesspit before, hard to imagine it getting worse but it no doubt will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Who governs Twitter? It feels like a dangerous watershed moment for the internet. People like Trump and Tommy Robinson will be back stirring up hate in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mandy Lifeboats Posted October 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) You cannot deny that the Internet has been a massive benefit to society. But before its invention the people that believed that the Royal Family are lizards or that the earth is flat had a very limited audience. The majority of that audience simply ignored them. On Twitter (and numerous other sites) the crackpots find one-another and feel their views are validated because "everyone I follow on Twitter agrees with me". Flat-earthers are harmless. Its the growth of things like Q-ANON that are genuinely worrying. I am all for freedom of expression. But I think Musk's Twitter will be even worse for society than pre-Musk Twitter. By the way......if anyone disagrees with me, please choose one of the following automated replies - "FAKE NEWS!" "MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS WARPED YOUR MIND" "LOADS OF PEOPLE I FOLLOW ON TWITTER AGREE WITH ME" Edited October 28, 2022 by Mandy Lifeboats speeling mishsteaks 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted October 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 Hopefully Twitter collapses and Musk loses all his money. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Don’t like Elon Musk, don’t like twitter being owned by Elon Musk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Spending part of your fortune on buying Twitter when there are so many things that you can spend them on to really help people. Edited October 28, 2022 by NoelVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 I'd love it to be a massive **** up from him. I'm beginning to really detest him. Unfortunately he'll probably grow it and make more money though. Not from me though, I didn't do Twitter before and I'm certainly not starting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: Spending part of your fortune on buying Twitter when there are so many things that you can spend them on to really help people. Exactly. You could probably feed the poorest half of the world for a few years with $44b. Or buy a shitty app. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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