Tomaszk Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 30 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Brentford have absolutely gone from strength to strength since Smith left to join us. Now you could absolutely argue that they’d have done the same if Smith had remained in post (particularly with Thomas Frank as his assistant) but that’s just gonna be opinion, the facts are that Brentford have been upwardly mobile since Smith’s exit. I would win that argument He got poached by a bigger club (having built tremendous foundations at a very well run club) just as they were about to go for the big time and finally start spending bigger money. 30 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Also, what is a top level Manager? Unai Emery (and others of course), someone with a proven track record of managing big teams, big names and winning big trophies. Unai is great great great, but Gary O'Neil and Nathan Jones are also, literally, top-level managers right now. 30 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I think the primary reason we’re so united in being fully behind this appointment is because there’s nowhere for us as a club to hide now, it’s unlikely we’ll be able to blame any future shortcomings on the Manager - he comes here with no caveats on experience or ability, if we fail under Emery then I don’t know who we could succeed under (although I appreciate 2+2 doesn’t always =4 in football world). We can only pray. If it doesn't work, it's likely the people who aren't Emery who will be the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) On 26/11/2022 at 14:58, DaveAV1 said: We really got lucky when these guys bought us. We were in so much trouble at the time we could easily have ended up with another chancer like Xia. To not only get multi billionaires but to get wealthy guys with the type of ambition and business acumen to actually make it count where and when it matters is like winning the lottery and putting it all on an outsider in the 3.30 at Haydock and winning. When you watch the England display last night, with a totally clueless manager who has been clueless for at least the last 12 months, employed by a pathetic organisation like the FA. Then you compare the effect of replacing a poor manager with an elite manager, as NSWE did. The benefits of being run by intelligent owners becomes extremely apparent. you are right.....extremely lucky in not just financial ways, they are prudent operators in a global business world....I think as ruthless as they can be, they are fair minded too.....an impressive combination. Fair but firm, is a good managerial pairing. But lets be honest here they bought Aston Villa for a song, sure their investments and guidance has their money back, many times over.....Owners have to have incentives too, they have to be motivated, and I think Aston Villa can provide all of that, because when you see the money some of these football clubs are going for, now......they have a sure fire winner. Its important, we understand, they have to have motivation, just like the players, and manager....and when you buy right, invest and then see that asset grow before your eyes, no wonder, they are happy. The players alone, have grown in value, overall, so it seems everything they invest grows.....happy days. All things being equal, we now have a manager, with the wherewithal to take us to the next level....It won't be easy, but I believe, he knows what it takes...."slowly,slowly, catch a monkey" It looks to me right now, that the likelyhood of all parties being happy, is quite high. Personally, I wouldn't swap these owners, with any of our competitors, they are relatively young too.....we are blessed. Edited November 29, 2022 by TRO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: See Stevenage have gone in with the good "ebening" I guess, when thats all they have to take the piss......Its something. Its ironic, he can speak 4 languages and most of us struggle with 1...but hey ho! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Just now, TRO said: I guess, when thats all they have to take the piss......Its something. Its ironic, he can speak 4 languages and most of us struggle with 1...but hey ho! Exactly i speak two and to know four is incredible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: There were unfortunately those that didn’t give him the credit he deserved from the off because he wasn’t a big name manager. I think Unai is the only manager we’ve ever had where there’s nobody complaining yet. Its all about results......and performances. They are the underlying criteria that sets opinions. He has presided over 2 league games, with 2 wins, so all, is bound to be well. If he achieves a win ratio commensurate with his career recordings, he will be with us for a long time. I am hoping, he secures enough wins initially, to give himself time to build a powerful team....I think he has the ability to do that. Incremental progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Cant wait for Emery ball to be back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Tomaszk said: You'd be wrong, but you could if you wanted. What is a top-level manager? I'd have him over 5 or 6 of PL managers right now. He's obviously a much better manager than the guy who replaced him. Shot himself in the foot taking Norwich on. Silly choice. The fact that he is plying his trade in the championship probably tells you all that you need to know. He’s a top man Dean and he will forever be remembered with great fondness by most villa fans but there’s absolutely no evidence that he is a top manager. It doesn’t mean we should think any less of the man though. He’s deserved his place in our history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 29, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2022 5 hours ago, TRO said: I guess, when thats all they have to take the piss......Its something. Its ironic, he can speak 4 languages and most of us struggle with 1...but hey ho! I think Unai is so great we can all rise above this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Not happy with Unai being this far down the list. May as well be in Other Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gwi1890 Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 He looks pleased with Ollie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Great to see him getting them super fit too. Ings picking up Archer, showing that spirit and togetherness. Good signs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brommy Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: He looks pleased with Ollie Unai's either amazed at Ollie's stamina or thinking 'crap, we've only got one really fit player!' 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slovenian Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, gwi1890 said: He looks pleased with Ollie yes, he should be a marathon runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, gwi1890 said: He looks pleased with Ollie Interesting that Archer is wearing studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 44 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Interesting that Archer is wearing studs. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, gwi1890 said: He looks pleased with Ollie Managers will always love Ollie, he is one of the fittest players in the league. He needs clever players around him and they all thrive 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Did McGinn die after this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 11 hours ago, UpTheVilla26 said: Did McGinn die after this? No, but he did give berth to a deep fried Mars bar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Mcginn burning off that deep fat fried behind he has. At least there will be more space in the dressing room now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, PerryBarrPet said: No, but he did give berth to a deep fried Mars bar. How a proper Brummie pronounces birth! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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