KAZZAM Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Great move for Dendoncker himself tho. Can't think of many bigger clubs coming in for him and a nice play to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 We’ll miss his skill, intensity, testosterone and sheer grit…oh wait… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 23 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Callum said: Can someone please explain the term ‘double pivot’ to me? I hear it all the time and don’t know what it means. Thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) I’m glad I won’t have to watch his horrible, lazy looking running style, the lackadaisical way he moved around the pitch… maybe he couldn’t help it and it was just the style he was stuck with but… it annoyed me quite a bit tbh… not sure I ever saw him either sprint or chase after the ball… or look smooth or slick in possession… couldn’t pass the ball very well either… and certainly not press resistant. Appreciate the job he did for us (added height, physicality, a bit of aerial presence or even prowess) but far too limited, just not an “Unai player”. Edited January 23 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Callum said: Can someone please explain the term ‘double pivot’ to me? I hear it all the time and don’t know what it means. Thanks Two defensive midfielders. One as anchor the other more box to box. I think Wenger introduced it to PL with Arsenal as that's first I can think of using 4231 with the double pivot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyblade Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Zatman said: a cup run that probably would have cost us a European spot from the league last season Was a lot worse Villa players involved that day Not least from our highest paid player ever Coutinho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 What if this upsets Youri to see his fellow countryman cast out like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Always thought he was a weird signing, a lot of wolves fans were happy to get rid. We overpaid for him and wasn’t what we needed. He may have had the odd decent performance, but he has also put in some poor performances. The fact that he only has 10 starts in 18 months shows it all. Glad we are getting some money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Big Donk! He is simply not a good enough passer to suit Emery ball, but is treated with too little respect by some on here. He is a specialist defensive midfielder, his reading of the game and positioning is top class, strong and good in duels and a solid work horse. He would not have strated so many games for Belgium under the period they were ranked no 1 in the world if he was not a very good player. But as said not good enough passer for us, also seems to be on a downwards trajectory in his career. All the best and good luck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Big Donk! He is simply not a good enough passer to suit Emery ball, but is treated with too little respect by some on here. He is a specialist defensive midfielder, his reading of the game and positioning is top class, strong and good in duels and a solid work horse. He would not have strated so many games for Belgium under the period they were ranked no 1 in the world if he was not a very good player. But as said not good enough passer for us, also seems to be on a downwards trajectory in his career. All the best and good luck! Workhorse is right and probably on a downward trajectory. For me, his lack of mobility, positional awareness and inability to make himself available for a pass are his downfall in Unai’s systems. He is what he is (usually hate that phrase) but we need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: Workhorse is right and probably on a downward trajectory. For me, his lack of mobility, positional awareness and inability to make himself available for a pass are his downfall in Unai’s systems. He is what he is (usually hate that phrase) but we need more. Fully agree that we need someone who is a better passer in that position and that he should be sold asap as he doesn't fit the style we play. Also far too slow as we need also the CM to be able to rush back and help out when we play the high defensive line. Only thing I don't agree with is positional awareness, at least the defensive part of it, I think he is top class at that. I'm thinking of the way he blocks space and passing alternatives and the times he has spotted danger and helped the CB out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: Fully agree that we need someone who is a better passer in that position and that he should be sold asap as he doesn't fit the style we play. Also far too slow as we need also the CM to be able to rush back and help out when we play the high defensive line. Only thing I don't agree with is positional awareness, at least the defensive part of it, I think he is top class at that. I'm thinking of the way he blocks space and passing alternatives and the times he has spotted danger and helped the CB out. I think that’s a fair summary. Maybe too defensive in comparison to Bouba? Have you seen much of Tim? Would he fulfil this sort of role? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 4 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: One of the worst players I’ve seen at Villa in years. Happy if I don’t have to watch him play again. Edit: ok, I got carried away. We’ve had a lot worse but I still think he’s shit. What do you mean with shit? A player who has 32 caps for the national team that has been ranked top in the world for large parts of that time, can such a player really be shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: I think that’s a fair summary. Maybe too defensive in comparison to Bouba? Have you seen much of Tim? Would he fulfil this sort of role? Yeah I agree that Big Donk is too much of a defensive specialist for our playing style. As I see it both our midfielders need to be exquisite passers, seems a perfect fit with Bouba being a bit stronger defensively and Luiz stronger attacking wise, but both more or less complete players. I'd love to see more of Tim! The few times i've seen him it seems like he is a really competent passer, and seems to have a good engine, box to box player. Only reservation I have is that I don't know how he copes with the tempo of the PL, if he is good enough defensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 24 Visiting Supporter Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: Would be a good move for everyone, as long as we can find a replacement. Hopefully Unai has a gem like Moreno up his sleeve. It doesn't look like we are in for Phillips anyway. Should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, striker said: Should be. He's on £175k a week which is more than our highest paid player and he doesn't get in our best XI. It would be stupid move that I'm happy for West Ham to waste money on. Edited January 24 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 hours ago, est1874 said: I was sat in the Trinity for that game and will never forgive him. He's been average af in his bit-part appearances since then. Care to elaborate on why you think otherwise? I bet he has trouble sleeping at night knowing this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, striker said: Should be. Why should we be? What is the argument? An overpriced Englishman who doesn't even play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Was a weird signing along with Bednarek near the end of that window. Neither fit our shape or team structure under Gerrard and it was like Lange thought they were bargains, so they came in. Never had a problem with Donck. Always did a job and was reliable, just doesn't pass well enough to be starting in Emery's team. I wish him the best going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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