Paul33 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Would chose Dead Donkey over Bailey any game ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I think I overreacted after the Stevenage debacle. He was very good yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Mantis said: I think I overreacted after the Stevenage debacle. He was very good yesterday. Most people did. It was a bad mistake, a massive lapse of concentration, but his performances against Brentford and United have been very good, and yesterday he put in another top display. I'm very happy with him in the squad, comes in, does a job and provides physical presence which isn't abundant in our squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Paul33 said: Would chose Dead Donkey over Bailey any game ! Especially with Mcginn playing Bailey role closer to his Scotland role which many have wanted to see for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 With kamara out he was always the obvious choice, swapping just one player like for like. Putting Bailey in meant swapping mcginns best position for dm and weakening the right side, putting more stress on the ever young young. It may be OK ( and we got wins) doing just that against weaker teams but we look far more solid keeping mccginn out on the right, Ramsey on the left and donk in the middle until kamara is ready. He won't dribble round 3 players and curl it into the top corner but he will recycle the ball and allow luiz to push a bit further forwards if needs be. He also slowed down towards the end of the game quite noticeably so may need a bit more fitness training is needed ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 16/04/2023 at 16:21, Mantis said: I think I overreacted after the Stevenage debacle. He was very good yesterday. Me too! Very steady performance on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 He's not a bad player, he breaks up play well. He's just miles off Kamara. He rarely shows for the ball, and when he does have the ball he will never make an incisive pass in between the lines. Man Utd, Spurs, Liverpool and Brighton to come...will be very tough if we don't get Kamara back. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Big Donk was solid today, not a misplaced pass. We know his limitations, he will take one or two touches on the ball too much, but that's better than trying to play direct passes and make howlers. Likewise he will never play the through balls that Luiz does, but he does a good job defensively and is solid. Should upgrade on him in the summer though. Or he can stay and be fourth choice to the mid two spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Avoided his once a game pass to put the opposition through! Success! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Excellent performance, really solid, seemed to win so many tackle in the first half. This can has made a real contribution to our push, we really haven't missed Kamara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I thought he did well - particularly first half, when it seemed the ball was caught in his magnetic field and he won plenty of turnovers. He has his limitations, but he's useful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 He looks like Forrest Gump when starts running at speed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Cizzler said: He's just miles off Kamara Was this meant for the Makelele and Patrick Vieira threads? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretVillaScout Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Safety first player. But a solid one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 People shouldn't underestimate Fulham's central midfield, it's worked well all season and there's real quality in there with Paliniha, Andreas Pereiera finally showing he can be a good mid tier prem player and Harrison Reed is underrated and made some good forward runs like the offside goal. Donk is fine. He's started what 4-5 home wins now so he can be a nice squad player for us next season if Emery still wants him. Depends on summer business of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Overall for his first season I feel very mixed on him. A big part of the issue is we've spent £13mil and first-team wages on a player who I would rather never started a game for us. He was brought in at a time when we had Chambers as a capable DM/CB option too, although much less physically imposing. My biggest gripe is that he is a player in our squad who may potentially be a road-block to someone like Iroegbunam. I can't decide personally if I'd rather have never signed Dendonker and then never loaned out Iroegbunam if that was the hypothetical. A season of games in the Championship will have been good experience but would they be better than a season in first team training and around 10 appearances for Villa, whilst also saving £13mil + wages on a player who will never be good enough to play for us and will never increase in value? I don't want to knock him too much as he's been good and solid and dependable on the whole and it's obviously not his fault we had an awful manager and a damaging, meltdown window in the summer. He's done everything asked of him and offers something different so he's been a good option and helped us this season when called upon, so he's done everything required of him and been a part of this brilliant season - just means ignoring financial and youth promotion aspects. I'm very curious to see what happens with him when all the youth prospects are back, if Kamara and Luiz are fit and healthy in pre-season. Emery will have a big decision to make on a lot of people, including him if the decision isn't already made up in his mind. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Glen Whelan 2.0. Is doing a decent job for us and one of Gerrard's better signings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ender4 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, skarroki said: Overall for his first season I feel very mixed on him. A big part of the issue is we've spent £13mil and first-team wages on a player who I would rather never started a game for us. He was brought in at a time when we had Chambers as a capable DM/CB option too, although much less physically imposing. My biggest gripe is that he is a player in our squad who may potentially be a road-block to someone like Iroegbunam. I can't decide personally if I'd rather have never signed Dendonker and then never loaned out Iroegbunam if that was the hypothetical. A season of games in the Championship will have been good experience but would they be better than a season in first team training and around 10 appearances for Villa, whilst also saving £13mil + wages on a player who will never be good enough to play for us and will never increase in value? I don't want to knock him too much as he's been good and solid and dependable on the whole and it's obviously not his fault we had an awful manager and a damaging, meltdown window in the summer. He's done everything asked of him and offers something different so he's been a good option and helped us this season when called upon, so he's done everything required of him and been a part of this brilliant season - just means ignoring financial and youth promotion aspects. I'm very curious to see what happens with him when all the youth prospects are back, if Kamara and Luiz are fit and healthy in pre-season. Emery will have a big decision to make on a lot of people, including him if the decision isn't already made up in his mind. I don’t understand this. Ironbunam may or may not ever be PL quality. We shall see in a couple of years, but 100% not ready this year and most probably not next year either. Donk at £12-13m is a cheapish reliable back-up in a league where back-ups for the top 6 teams cost £30-50m. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Cizzler said: He's not a bad player, he breaks up play well. He's just miles off Kamara. He rarely shows for the ball, and when he does have the ball he will never make an incisive pass in between the lines. Man Utd, Spurs, Liverpool and Brighton to come...will be very tough if we don't get Kamara back. These games might suit him more compared to games we are expected to control the game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 minute ago, ender4 said: I don’t understand this. Ironbunam may or may not ever be PL quality. We shall see in a couple of years, but 100% not ready this year and most probably not next year either. Donk at £12-13m is a cheapish reliable back-up in a league where back-ups for the top 6 teams cost £30-50m. 13 mill is chump change for majority of PL clubs going back about 5 years at least. People need to realise this is state of the PL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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