nick76 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, WallisFrizz said: Understatement of the year! You honestly don’t think we can beat Burnley in two attempts or Palace at home? I’m not saying we will but I don’t think we’re so bad we haven’t got a hope. Don’t we struggle against Burnley generally or am I making that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Don’t we struggle against Burnley generally or am I making that up? Since being back up, 1 win, 1 defeat, 2 draws. I forget how many points we “should” have had from those. I remember thinking the defeat should have been a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: This thread is the battle for a top half finish, it’s pretty much the only realistic aim left and it’s more appropriate than discussing it in the relegation thread due to the likelihood now of staying up. Since the Norwich game really only two posters have said we might manage it ( @turvontour and @VillaChris) so I’m not sure this thread is exactly dripping with confidence. The two Burnley games and Palace are winnable, however that doesn’t mean I think we’ll win all three. I don’t think we’ll win all three. Maybe Burnley will have secured safety by the time of our second meeting, maybe Palace will be further on beach than we will. Really don’t know. I think at best we’ll manage two wins and maybe a draw. Meaning we’ll probably fall short of a top ten finish. Added to that I don’t know which Villa team will turn up, we could smash nine points and be great because we are a better team than them but the half soaked Villa team of recent times may show up and we lose all three because Burnley are still fighting for survival and have some confidence and Palace have a bit of talent. If we turn up then I think we’ll be closer to 9 points in those three games but the question is which Villa team turns up. I’m thinking a win, draw and a loss in no particular order. Edited May 4, 2022 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Since being back up, 1 win, 1 defeat, 2 draws. I forget how many points we “should” have had from those. I remember thinking the defeat should have been a win. Thanks, so better than I thought but still not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Since being back up, 1 win, 1 defeat, 2 draws. I forget how many points we “should” have had from those. I remember thinking the defeat should have been a win. We played so well in both the Burnley games last season and instead of the six points our play deserved we ended up with one. I think this has scarred me and now it wouldn't surprise me if we got nothing out of the two upcoming Burnley games! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Beat Burnley x2, draw with Palace, draw with City, beat Liverpool. Easy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Beat Burnley x2, draw with Palace, draw with City, beat Liverpool. Easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) Actual points are irrelevent but unless we finish abvove 11th surely the general consensus must be we have gone backwards this season? Surely the Palace and Burnley home games are winable? Don't expect anything off Liverpool or Man City and can see us losing maybe a draw at Burnley would be massive if we got a win though. Edited May 4, 2022 by zab6359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 4, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 4, 2022 Didn't really know where else to put this but seeing as it relates to our battle for top half I guess I'll stick it here. Since Gerrard took over, we are : 4th in the league away to bottom half sides (P-6 W-4 D-1 PPG 2.17) 12th away to top half sides (but that's flattering us. P-5 W-1 D-0 PPG 0.60) 11th home to bottom half (P-5 W-3 D-1 PPG 2.0) 16th home to top half (P-6 W-1 D-1 PPG 0.67) Remaining schedule is : 1 game away to bottom half (Burnley) 2.17 1 game away to top half (Man City) 0.60 1 game home to top half (Liverpool) 0.67 2 games home to bottom half (Burnley, Palace) 4.0 7.44pts more points ? So 2 wins and a draw. 47 enough for 10th? Probably not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Ingram85 said: Shit for 2/3 of the match against the worst team in the league and now we are gonna finish top half. I know we aren’t getting relegated and I’m hardly an optimist but **** me lol, some of you lot are as delusional as the ones convinced we are still gonna go down. Who are we going to beat after brushing aside the mighty Norwich between now and the end of the season? Mental. Palace are the type of team that we seem to do well against under Gerrard. Burnley should be as well, but you never know with those guys. I think 7 points from those 3 is a decent target. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Since being back up, 1 win, 1 defeat, 2 draws. I forget how many points we “should” have had from those. I remember thinking the defeat should have been a win. We played the best football I've ever seen Via play in the first half of the defeat. Typical that they turned into Barcelona at the 60 minute mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Keyblade said: We played the best football I've ever seen Via play in the first half of the defeat. Typical that they turned into Barcelona at the 60 minute mark. Think it's because we're like Southampton. We're decent but no one really fears us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 pts should get us to 11th. Just about acceptable for this transitional season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 7 hours ago, nick76 said: Don’t we struggle against Burnley generally or am I making that up? I think before we won the infamous Wesley game on NYD 2020 we hadn't won at Turf Moor since the 60s or something daft. And of course we reverted back to type there last season somehow losing 3-2 when we totally dominated. They're also unbeaten in last three visits to VP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 13 hours ago, VillaChris said: I think before we won the infamous Wesley game on NYD 2020 we hadn't won at Turf Moor since the 60s or something daft. And of course we reverted back to type there last season somehow losing 3-2 when we totally dominated. They're also unbeaten in last three visits to VP. 6 points for Burnley then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 23 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: Since being back up, 1 win, 1 defeat, 2 draws. I forget how many points we “should” have had from those. I remember thinking the defeat should have been a win. The draw last season too. 28 shots on goal and total domination. Chance after chance. After chance went a begging. Still annoys me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Keyblade said: We played the best football I've ever seen Via play in the first half of the defeat. Typical that they turned into Barcelona at the 60 minute mark. You could say in recent times it’s more apt that we turned into Barca. (Roma, Liverscum etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 I used a league predictor and think we've a great shout of getting 10th if we get 7 points from the remaining games including a win over Palace. If we can get the 7 points we should get at least 11th hopefully. 9 points and we surely get 10th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I used a league predictor and think we've a great shout of getting 10th if we get 7 points from the remaining games including a win over Palace. If we can get the 7 points we should get at least 11th hopefully. 9 points and we surely get 10th The middle bunch really seem to be stuttering now. A good end to the season from us and we sneak top half I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 04/05/2022 at 07:46, nick76 said: Don’t we struggle against Burnley generally or am I making that up? It’s exacerbated because they are one of those teams we always batter but never seem to get the result! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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