allani Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 13/08/2022 at 15:34, Laughable Chimp said: Can't remember the last good cross he put in and that's what he's supposed to be good at. Well he put in one absolutely beautiful cross against Everton in the second half. It was the perfect height for the striker to nod in from about 8 / 9 yards out in the dead centre of the goal - unfortunately for some bizarre reason, Ollie decided to run behind the (taller) centre back and "attack" the back post. If he had made the run in front of the defender it would have been harder to miss than score. As it happens the stats will show a failed cross that went to the opposition. Which is the problem with stats like that. The cross was perfect, the run from the centre forward was awful - the "black mark" goes against the crosser. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Zatman said: It doesnt include the penalty he should have conceded, after the Bournemouth fiasco he really should be looking over his shoulder for a starting place https://www.football365.com/news/feature-premier-league-weekend-worst-xi-two-man-utd-players-de-gea-tielemans-coutinho Coutinho also made the team Also doesn't include the absolutely perfect cross that he put in during the second half that would have given Ollie an absolute sitter from the centre of the goal about 8 yards out. Unfortunately Ollie decided to run behind the taller centre back to "attack" the back post rather than doing what most strikers would do and attack the space in front of the centre back. Had he done that it would have been harder to miss than to score. But according to the stats that cross will go down as a "failed" cross that went to the opposition rather than the assist it should have been. Digne gets the black mark but it was the centre forward who failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, allani said: Also doesn't include the absolutely perfect cross that he put in during the second half that would have given Ollie an absolute sitter from the centre of the goal about 8 yards out. Unfortunately Ollie decided to run behind the taller centre back to "attack" the back post rather than doing what most strikers would do and attack the space in front of the centre back. Had he done that it would have been harder to miss than to score. But according to the stats that cross will go down as a "failed" cross that went to the opposition rather than the assist it should have been. Digne gets the black mark but it was the centre forward who failed. Mentioned it last season Watkins doesn’t make those runs. Shearer highlighted it during motd. He’s more often than not behind the defenders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: Mentioned it last season Watkins doesn’t make those runs. Shearer highlighted it during motd. He’s more often than not behind the defenders. Lucas, needs to be able to find him easier....where he should be in the box.....shearer is right. Edited August 17, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: Mentioned it last season Watkins doesn’t make those runs. Shearer highlighted it during motd. He’s more often than not behind the defenders. Yep doesn't have the strikers instinct to do this unfortunately. That said if quality balls are being pinged in time after time he might gamble with the run ins. Edited August 17, 2022 by birdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 On 16/08/2022 at 23:13, Sulberto21 said: Mentioned it last season Watkins doesn’t make those runs. Shearer highlighted it during motd. He’s more often than not behind the defenders. He made another really strange run when Ings got the ball on the right side of the goal. Somehow Ings managed to get the ball past the defender and into the near post area where you might expect Ollie to be loitering. Instead Ollie had started to move into a position where the defender was exactly between him and where Ings was. I could have understood if he'd decided to try and move away completely so that he gave Ings the option of just passing the ball backwards - but he just kind of stopped in a complete no-mans-land position. It was another of those moments that just left me scratching my head wondering what he was thinking. It is weird because some of his movement out wide is pretty decent - see the runs for both of the goals against Everton. But in the box he seems to lose that awareness completely. Maybe it is a confidence thing and a few goals / assists will mean he starts taking up better positions in the box. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 He's **** shit Shit shit shit shit shit. Anyone banging on about all the assists he had a few years ago need to shut up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Poor mans Matt Targett. Absolute crap upgrade which seems norm now for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Couldn't get a kick for Everton. 25m and have a pay rise lad. Player on the decline and with a huge huge huge huge contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) I am utterly convinced this guy is living off the reputation he garnered a few years ago and people singing his praises don't realize he's regressed massively since. Its why we got him from Everton for such a relatively low price. Its why Everton fans themselves were pretty mixed about him leaving. Putting him on the salary he was on was for that length at his age whilst getting rid of Targett was stupid. Edited August 20, 2022 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Can't defend. Jordan bloody Ayew looked good playing against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Regardless of what you think of the penalty, he was bad enough even if you don't take it into account. Dreadful defending. Ramsey was completely useless though, which also doesn't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I remember Everton fans saying he was crap when we first signed him and i thought they were being salty but it turns out they weren't lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 My mate who’s an Everton fan said he was decent going forward but awful at defending, he was glad to see the back of him and for the money we paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MellbergsBeard Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 One of our highest paid players, we’ve gone back 10 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, rbcuk said: My mate who’s an Everton fan said he was decent going forward but awful at defending, he was glad to see the back of him and for the money we paid Not seen anything good going forward so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Another softie. Fits perfectly into the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I forgot to comment in this one. My god he was bad. So weak and a liability at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Hasn't started the season well at all has he? Cannot possibly get any worse. French international class player? Blimey! I'm looking forward to seeing if Ludwig is actually worse. Surely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Can’t believe we ended up with this guy after Look me in the eye Top Lad Stevie G bollocked former PotS in Targett into leaving. Everton absolutely pulled our pants down with this one. I hope with a new manager he will buck his ideas up, as it stands he is looking like one of the worst ‘upgrade’ signings we’ve made. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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