tinker Posted February 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 Needs to sort our defence out quickly , otherwise we are going to leak goals at an alarming rate. Not sure what it is but I don't think the full backs playing so high helps, Mc Ginn and Ramsey have to cover for them and thats leaving Douglas in the middle and its hurting us. As for the central defenders , they look completely lost, Ming's is attempting to be everywhere and although it's affective 90% of the time it's causing confusion , we had 3 of our players going for the same ball tonight, 2 for Leeds 3rd goal. What's going on, even Martinez looked unsure of himself? Subs , is Ings injured? I like Watkins but the game was crying out for new blood up front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, samjp26 said: Steven Gerrard has publicly admitted we want to sign Yves Bissouma Where did he say this? Watched 18 min press conference after someone posted the same and no mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Where did he say this? Watched 18 min press conference after someone posted the same and no mention 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 He needs time. This season is a busted flush, as long as we don't get sucked into the relegation fight he will have done OK. He has to sort out this defence in summer. Those players have had more than enough time to show they are the answer and they keep on making the same mistakes. They clearly are not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Gerrard will not tolerate the mistakes of last night. The lads need a manager who isn’t gonna be their best friend 99% of the time. They need to be held accountable and he’s not the sort of person that will accept it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Gerrard will not tolerate the mistakes of last night. The lads need a manager who isn’t gonna be their best friend 99% of the time. They need to be held accountable and he’s not the sort of person that will accept it. Wots he going to do then ? Get better players than Ming's/Konsa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole86 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Zatman said: Played 12 won 5 Gerrard for Villa Played 14 won 5 Smith at Norwich Not much difference in results except the quality of players Pretty selective use of stats there including a win at League 1 Charlton. I think Smith is doing a decent job at Norwich but they did also just have a six game losing run where they didn’t score a goal for over nine hours. I would love it if just once a manager thread didn’t get derailed from the start by people who didn’t like the initial appointment. The conspiracy theory about the club engineering the Liverpool job for Gerrard is amazingly weird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, hippo said: Wots he going to do then ? Get better players than Ming's/Konsa ? It’s a mentality thing - we’ve got too much mental weakness - they aren’t lost causes by any stretch. It’s just about working on how the lads react to different forms of pressure. From Mings’s interview you can already tell the impact it’s having on the squad with him as manager. It’s still a time issue of them learning exactly of what Gerrard and his staff want and expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, hippo said: Wots he going to do then ? Get better players than Ming's/Konsa ? Yes, long overdue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 hours ago, samjp26 said: So essentially you’re saying you’re making up a scenario in your head and pretending it’s reality? Targett replaced with Digne, academy player brought into the first team as his new back up. We sign one of the worlds best players in Coutinho who goes off injured tonight, academy player comes on to replace him. Steven Gerrard has publicly admitted we want to sign Yves Bissouma, one of the most highly rated midfield players in the Premier League right now, we had a £35m bid rejected for him but are still interested. He turned 25 a few months ago btw. We also missed out on Rodrigo Bentancur, 24 years old, who we came close to getting but went to Spurs eventually in a deal that benefited Juventus more due to another outgoing player. We are also signing young players left right and centre from other academies and even first teams, constantly improving our youth ranks. We have an abundance of academy talents doing absolute bits in the Championship and below. So yeah, go on, please continue to enlighten us all about how we’ve completely changed our plans so Purslow and Gerrard can run off into the sunset and leave us in disarray. Wasn't the plan, widely embraced by most fans, to eventually get back to a place where we could compete for and actually get top players again? From the moaning of some, I gather they miss the good old days of signing " prospects" like Trez, Wesley, Engels and the top of the Championship etc. Lol If the argument is that we should be targeting the best young players in Europe, they need to to realise these usually go to the TOP clubs in Europe. We've invested heavily in our youth setup to supplement. At the stage we are at, we can go for the level or 2 under world class, and world class who have lost their way a bit There is no pleasing some. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Gerrard will not tolerate the mistakes of last night. The lads need a manager who isn’t gonna be their best friend 99% of the time. They need to be held accountable and he’s not the sort of person that will accept it. Significant mistakes were his. Playing with that little possession with full backs spending more time in the final than back third (especially as there seemed to be little cover today) is not a great approach to the pace and intensity of a Bielsa team. We're tactically a little rigid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2022 Bielsa has managed that team for over 3 years. Gerrard has been here a few months. He got it wrong yesterday but if anybody has already started saying he is a poor manager its best to ignore them. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dale said: Significant mistakes were his. Playing with that little possession with full backs spending more time in the final than back third (especially as there seemed to be little cover today) is not a great approach to the pace and intensity of a Bielsa team. We're tactically a little rigid. Yes if agree. Surely we could have come up with something a bit better as Leeds are so predictable. I also wonder if when Gerrard talks about "buy in" to his new system and that most have embraced it, that our CBS are the ones who are struggling. They certainly look that way....they have to now essentially defend with no fullbacks following a turnover in possession and they look like they don't know what they're doing. Not sure what they're supposed to be doing when we're getting overrun like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dale said: Significant mistakes were his. Playing with that little possession with full backs spending more time in the final than back third (especially as there seemed to be little cover today) is not a great approach to the pace and intensity of a Bielsa team. We're tactically a little rigid. Absolutely 23 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Bielsa has managed that team for over 3 years. Gerrard has been here a few months. He got it wrong yesterday but if anybody has already started saying he is a poor manager its best to ignore them. And absolutely. the impatience is exhausting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, The_Steve said: It’s a mentality thing - we’ve got too much mental weakness - they aren’t lost causes by any stretch. It’s just about working on how the lads react to different forms of pressure. From Mings’s interview you can already tell the impact it’s having on the squad with him as manager. It’s still a time issue of them learning exactly of what Gerrard and his staff want and expect. This was what you said:- "Gerrard will not tolerate the mistakes of last night. The lads need a manager who isn’t gonna be their best friend 99% of the time. They need to be held accountable and he’s not the sort of person that will accept it. " Now your saying Mings and Co - just need time with the head coach - thats some watering down of your original prognosis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Bielsa has managed that team for over 3 years. Gerrard has been here a few months. He got it wrong yesterday but if anybody has already started saying he is a poor manager its best to ignore them. Can I ask why anyone who thinks Stevie G isn't going to cut it here should be ignored ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Bielsa has managed that team for over 3 years. Gerrard has been here a few months. He got it wrong yesterday but if anybody has already started saying he is a poor manager its best to ignore them. I would say Leeds are probably the easiest team to study and play in the league. They dont change system and we played into there hands Newcastle have taken 4 points from them Edited February 10, 2022 by Zatman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Interestingly, this was the first Gerrard game where we scored 3 goals, so it looks like he's sorting out the attack. Coutinho - Buendia - Ramsey looks absolutely terrifying tbf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, hippo said: This was what you said:- "Gerrard will not tolerate the mistakes of last night. The lads need a manager who isn’t gonna be their best friend 99% of the time. They need to be held accountable and he’s not the sort of person that will accept it. " Now your saying Mings and Co - just need time with the head coach - thats some watering down of your original prognosis ? What's your interpretation of 'held accountable'? Surely extra work and guidance is working on weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, hippo said: Can I ask why anyone who thinks Stevie G isn't going to cut it here should be ignored ? Because it’s obviously personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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