Zatman Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Because it’s obviously personal. His CV was also questioned before he joined 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: His CV was also questioned before he joined It was so why give the guy time right ? Obviously he is going to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It was so why give the guy time right ? Obviously he is going to fail. About 99% of managers in the world will fail, its the speed and manner of it I just dont see his CV as impressive if his name wasn't Steven Gerrard Edited February 10, 2022 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Because it’s obviously personal. Is it ? I realise you like him - thats fine. But Ive had thought anyone questioning whether or not he can manage in one of the toughest leagues in the world isn't unreasonable. Especially has he hasn't managed in this league before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, hippo said: Is it ? I realise you like him - thats fine. But Ive had thought anyone questioning whether or not he can manage in one of the toughest leagues in the world isn't unreasonable. Especially has he hasn't managed in this league before. Questioning it is one thing. Hoping he fails is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Anyway both your minds are made up so it’s a pointless discussion. Have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Questioning it is one thing. Hoping he fails is another. With respect you opening post was something like:- "but if anybody has already started saying he is a poor manager its best to ignore them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, hippo said: With respect you opening post was something like:- "but if anybody has already started saying he is a poor manager its best to ignore them." True, Im going to follow my own advice mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, Zatman said: His CV was also questioned before he joined Seem to recall he was called a “rookie”. That would be the sort of rookie who can attract Coutinho to the club and get him playing sublime attacking football with Ramsey. Ah yes, the sort of rookie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Anyway both your minds are made up so it’s a pointless discussion. Have a good day. It's my ball and I'm going home. !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, hippo said: It's my ball and I'm going home. !!! I’m going to give him time, you aren’t. Is anything either of us say going to change that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 His management is definitely more Rafa than Rodgers. Definitely skewing towards we've got a goal let's soak it up drop 10 yards and try and catch them...but instead of trying to catch them but we just stay sat in . No runners. No breakneck transitions. I think Gerrard will need to rethink things. Its happened several times now. Rhythm and attacking output have died a death. I would even say it is Brucesque in that regard. Though I can actually see what Gerrard is trying to actually implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I would say Leeds are probably the easiest team to study and play in the league. They dont change system and we played into there hands Newcastle have taken 4 points from them Definitely them...or... Steven Gerrard's Christmas tree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’m going to give him time, you aren’t. Is anything either of us say going to change that? I am giving him time. I havent called for his head Any criticism or praise he has received from me has been fair. Its wrong just because he is a new manager that we cannot nitpick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Wasn't the plan, widely embraced by most fans, to eventually get back to a place where we could compete for and actually get top players again? From the moaning of some, I gather they miss the good old days of signing " prospects" like Trez, Wesley, Engels and the top of the Championship etc. Lol If the argument is that we should be targeting the best young players in Europe, they need to to realise these usually go to the TOP clubs in Europe. We've invested heavily in our youth setup to supplement. At the stage we are at, we can go for the level or 2 under world class, and world class who have lost their way a bit There is no pleasing some. some of our fans talk like they're expecting 100% win record or we're shit. it's just removed from reality and OTT, but let them have their moan. it's probably why they follow the sport. personally I think that, mistakes aside, last night's game was a bloody rush of entertainment! I came away from it slightly disappointed that we couldn't get a win, but also with a feeling of "well damn, that was an exhilarating game of football". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: I am giving him time. I havent called for his head Any criticism or praise he has received from me has been fair. Its wrong just because he is a new manager that we cannot nitpick not sure about fairness in conjecture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, hippo said: Can I ask why anyone who thinks Stevie G isn't going to cut it here should be ignored ? Because we watch the games and see a clear identity to how we play, we haven’t scored many from open play this season last night we scored all 3 , we cut out the defensive errors and we climb up the table, some new signings in the summer we hopefully cut those errors. How can Steven Gerrard stop Dan James beating a 6ft4 defender in the air? How can he stop the third goal? Does he run on the pitch and shove Martinez to claim the ball or does he run across Tyrone Mings and boot it into row Z? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: I am giving him time. I havent called for his head Any criticism or praise he has received from me has been fair. Its wrong just because he is a new manager that we cannot nitpick Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I've full faith in Gerrard. We are being undone by player errors. Gerrard needs the summer to solve the problem positions of CF, CDM and CB and I'm certain he will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Because we watch the games and see a clear identity to how we play, we haven’t scored many from open play this season last night we scored all 3 , we cut out the defensive errors and we climb up the table, some new signings in the summer we hopefully cut those errors. How can Steven Gerrard stop Dan James beating a 6ft4 defender in the air? How can he stop the third goal? Does he run on the pitch and shove Martinez to claim the ball or does he run across Tyrone Mings and boot it into row Z? The point I was responding to was that anyone questioning Stevie G's managerial competence should be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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