a m ole Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, TRO said: I would be careful of listening to folk, throwing "Moron" around....its has a habit of catching. What the actual **** are you trying to say here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 51 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Guess it's some of his old Liverpool friends in the press who'll be spinning the line he's keeping us up against the odds. It’s his old Liverpool pal in the boardroom that’s the problem. He’s the reason he came here and the reason he’s still here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 It would be nice for us to be above Bournemouth at some point this season given the money we have spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Eddie Howe showing how Gerrard how its done! Started around the same time aswell right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, ender4 said: He doesn’t believe he’s made any. True that. He just needs to bring in 'more quality' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, TRO said: are you an expert at false narrative? He has said on occasions, he's made mistakes....he said "its on me"....takes a big man to say that, some past managers haven't. If you don't like him, fair enough, but have the balls to says so, don't make stuff up. Why do you think he says so often 'it's on me'? It's because deep down he doesn't believe it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, TRO said: These things take time.....but I will almost guarantee you now.......If Ollie and Danny could find their shooting boots, from now, the landscape would change.... half these , fanciful claims would disappear......and we could get back to gradual improvement and sensible growth. We are wallowing in self pity and negativity, due to the poor start.....and we are doing ourselves a disservice. watch UTV podcast, it might, throw a bit of positivity, your way. Leeds is not an easy place to go, and yet some are treating the place, with no respect......we should have won, we should have beat Man city too.....but we need to have more respect for what is trying to be done too. There are no easy games.....and yet the disrespect is already gaining momentum, for Nottingham Forest, we are like spoilt kids. If we win, it will be well deserved. I honestly think you watch a different Aston Villa to me mate, we can’t be at further spectrums at the moment and I never remember being like that before Gerrard with you. 12 minutes ago, TRO said: and we could get back to gradual improvement and sensible growth. I assume you don’t mean under Gerrard but generally since the owners came in 4 or so years ago? Because I haven’t seen gradual improvement and sensible growth under Gerrard, in fact probably on balance we seem to be at best drifting and at worse getting worse. 14 minutes ago, TRO said: Leeds is not an easy place to go, and yet some are treating the place, with no respect......we should have won No Leeds isn’t an easy place to go but we aren’t picking up points well for equivalent of half a season, we played half a game against 10 men and a goalkeeper that was flapping, of course we should’ve won but between players not taking their chances and Gerrard’s poor tactics and subs we didn’t. 17 minutes ago, TRO said: we should have beat Man city too You’re one of the biggest advocates for this so I’m surprised you said this re the Coutinho goal which I for one disagreed with because a) Man City players stopped when the ref blew so who knows if it still would’ve gone in and b) it changes the game and so we don’t know how either team would’ve reacted. Goals change games and saying a goal should stand which means we would’ve won is not correct. 20 minutes ago, TRO said: There are no easy games.....and yet the disrespect is already gaining momentum, for Nottingham Forest, we are like spoilt kids. If we don’t beat Forest, which is a banker in my eyes for Gerrard then we are in a whole world of trouble. While we have to respect the league, we are supposed to be a team pushing for top ten, we need to beat the worst teams at least because we struggle against mid to elite teams. I think Gerrard’s team beats Forest, it has to but this guy needs to go, but beating Forest will cover him to the WC unfortunately. Gerrard is doing just enough to save himself from the sack it seems but enough to damage Villa. Sad! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, TRO said: These things take time.....but I will almost guarantee you now.......If Ollie and Danny could find their shooting boots, from now, the landscape would change.... half these , fanciful claims would disappear......and we could get back to gradual improvement and sensible growth. We are wallowing in self pity and negativity, due to the poor start.....and we are doing ourselves a disservice. It's a poor start, carrying on from a poor end to last season from Soton at home early March onwards. You can't get away with four > five months of duff form and performances in the top flight now - if you ever could. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 I don't think we need to go round that iceberg. This boat can smash right through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, messi11 said: Eddie Howe showing how Gerrard how its done! Started around the same time aswell right? I recall a lot of banter about how we were able to get Gerrard and Newcastle had to settle for Howe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: It’s his old Liverpool pal in the boardroom that’s the problem. He’s the reason he came here and the reason he’s still here. I get that but Purslow dosen't have that much power. If NSWE wanted to sack Gerrard there's no chance he could overrule them and refuse. Think big issue is the owners are seemingly happy with the worldwide profile Gerrard brings to us so they're willing to put up with mediocre results longer than under DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: I recall a lot of banter about how we were able to get Gerrard and Newcastle had to settle for Howe. I don't. Anyone celebrating Gerrard was very overconfident. He was a ridiculous punt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I get that but Purslow dosen't have that much power. If NSWE wanted to sack Gerrard there's no chance he could overrule them and refuse. Think big issue is the owners are seemingly happy with the worldwide profile Gerrard brings to us so they're willing to put up with mediocre results longer than under DS. Depending on how much they defer to their CEO ie Purslow. If Purslow (their choice to run the business day to day) is fighting Gerrard’s corner every time they question it then as owners they defer to the business leader maybe. We don’t know but they chose Purslow to run the business and will rely on his voice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: I don't. Anyone celebrating Gerrard was very overconfident. He was a ridiculous punt. Me either, I was concerned we hired him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Hopefully a " strong " away point will shut one or two up on here Monday. Edited October 8, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Depending on how much they defer to their CEO ie Purslow. If Purslow (their choice to run the business day to day) is fighting Gerrard’s corner every time they question it then as owners they defer to the business leader maybe. We don’t know but they chose Purslow to run the business and will rely on his voice. Could be but I can't believe Wes and Nas watched the last two games and genuinely think we'll do anything with Gerrard as manager. Can only think Purslow is telling them to give Gerrard until world cup break as then it's a full year in charge. I think that's an error as by then it will feel like another wasted season. We'll see. It's no good anyway lauding the owners as brilliant if they give a below par manager game after game after game when other similar clubs are sacking managers who've arguably done better than Gerrard e.g. Wolves and probably Southampton in next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Hopefully a " strong " away point will shut one or two up on here tomorrow. Not Really the game is Monday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, VillaChris said: I get that but Purslow dosen't have that much power. If NSWE wanted to sack Gerrard there's no chance he could overrule them and refuse. Think big issue is the owners are seemingly happy with the worldwide profile Gerrard brings to us so they're willing to put up with mediocre results longer than under DS. They will rely on him for guidance, being sensible business men. Unfortunately they've ended up taking the opinion of someone who gives jobs to his mates and doesn't have much of a clue about anything football wise. He's slithered his way in and it'll be very difficult to remove him now. A loss to Forest is not enough to get rid of Gerrard. It will take the crowd really going for him against Chelsea and Brentford. Hopefully it happens. The longer he's here, the more time we're wasting. We've already lost touch with Newcastle who were well behind us when he was appointed. I'd have to check but I presume we've spent more money than them as well. Maybe the tactical Chris Wood transfer would push them ahead of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Not Really the game is Monday I can't even try to be funny properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 It's a full on race now to see who will be sacked first gerard or b Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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