TheStagMan Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 "Steven Gerrard's Aston Villa" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) Dear god do not sack Neil Cutler. From this thread, bits taken from The Athletic Edited November 8, 2021 by HalfTimePost 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: whilst i agree with the sentiment the danger is that we are a club with owners who will put money in but a top class academy any manager coming here to make a 2 year audition will pick the former over the latter and im not sold on where that could leave us, look at say rodriquez at everton, as soon as ancelotti had gone he wanted out we need a manager that even if he does leave due to being successful after say 2 or 3 years he leaves us with the academy lads looking like the next decade of the club i would say that any new manager needs to buy into the academy. i trust the board on that much. and considering gerrard was liverpool's youth coach before becomming a manager, i trust him to buy into it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Absolutely this. We can chuck another £100m at the squad in January and still go down if we try to cut corners with the managerial appointment. The recruitment aspect is an interesting one. I assume there will be money in January for the new manager, and it would be nice to have a guy in charge that players relish the chance to play for. Many players around the world would have grown up hero-worshipping Gerrard through the TV. The chance to play for him at a big club with money and ambitions, especially if you're a quality midfielder, would be quite the lure I reckon. I'm not saying that he'd be my no.1 choice necessarily, but I also don't think we should lump him in with Lampard and Terry just because they were players of the same era. He's now managed over 190 games for Rangers, and coached the youth at Liverpool. "In November 2016, days before retiring as a player, Gerrard had an interview for the vacant managerial post at League One club Milton Keynes Dons, but said that he was not ready for the job.[175] In January 2017, he was appointed youth coach at Liverpool, effective from February.[176][177][178] On 11 April, it was reported that Gerrard would be taking charge of the Liverpool Under-18 side ahead of the 2017–18 season after impressing Jürgen Klopp and Alex Inglethorpe with his work ethic, knowledge and attitude towards academy coaching" Wiki I can't say I know too much about his style of play, but I bet Lange and Purslow would know enough. Purslow in particular will know about his character on and off the pitch. I've long detested Gerrard as a player as I always thought he was a nasty piece of work, can't stand Liverpool and all the "Stevie G" media gushing bullshit. But that nastiness would have played some part in driving his talent and ambitions to become a winner. We need some of that if truth be told. He could've easily joined Neville and Carragher earning millions on Sky, but chose to take-on a pretty broken Rangers which I guess says something. A lot will hinge on the coaches, and I guess we'll have ample resource for the next manager to try and hire the best. If Gerrard is to be the new man, then I think he stands a good chance of attracting good players in January, as well as getting a tune out of the ones we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alf_stewart Posted November 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 The new manager needs to be picked on the basis of how well their name name fits in SJMs song, and this criteria only. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 13 hours ago, macandally said: My only worry is his age and the fact he has backed out of a couple of roles recently (think Spurs and Newcastle?). Is his heart still in it? He is only 63/64 I think. He is young enough to get sacked before age becomes an issue We could easily get a good 5 years of management 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted November 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, alf_stewart said: The new manager needs to be picked on the basis of how well their name name fits in SJMs song, and this criteria only. That's Zidane out of the running 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, tomav84 said: i would say that any new manager needs to buy into the academy. i trust the board on that much. and considering gerrard was liverpool's youth coach before becomming a manager, i trust him to buy into it too see i dont i cant shake the thinking that because he will eye the post klopp liverpool job he will be on the clock from the minute he lands at VP and will therefore go with older heads, not quite steve bruce buying jedinak and whelan and **** us long term as long as he got his promotion but that kind of thing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, HalfTimePost said: Dear god do not sack Neil Cutler. aside from sentimental value, why not? the coachng staff are all responsible for the bad year we've had and in fact cutler is the one remaining coach that has been here since the start of the year where we've been largely poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, tomav84 said: aside from sentimental value, why not? the coachng staff are all responsible for the bad year we've had and in fact cutler is the one remaining coach that has been here since the start of the year where we've been largely poor. Neil Cutler is the GK coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) As shit as Lambert was, didn’t we have problems getting some of his backroom team out of Norwich? I could’ve sworn that we had to bring in coaches that hadn’t worked with Lambert before. At least 1 or 2. One of my biggest concerns is that we keep Danks and MacPhee and stop a manager bringing in all of his own team. Edited November 8, 2021 by jacketspuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: aside from sentimental value, why not? the coachng staff are all responsible for the bad year we've had and in fact cutler is the one remaining coach that has been here since the start of the year where we've been largely poor. It could also be argued that Martinez' form has dipped since he joined Villa. He was excellent at Arsenal for the half season before we bought him and just won the FA Cup. So he joined us on a really good run of personal form. As we have got our coaching hands around him his form has deteriorated 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, HalfTimePost said: Neil Cutler is the GK coach. i know? he's still part of the coaching team and has input with tactics. you see him stood up chatting to deano during games. think they're chatting about goalkeeping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Dear god do not sack Neil Cutler. From this thread, bits taken from The Athletic Let's not forget it's Gregg Evans behind this info in the Athletic. Knows as much about dealings at the club as a witch doctor knows about open-heart surgery. Edited November 8, 2021 by est1874 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 minute ago, jacketspuds said: One of my biggest concerns is that we keep and Danks and MacPhee and stop a manager bringing in all of his own team. I agree, the new manager must be allowed to select his own backroom and he should have zero pressure on him to retain any of the incumbents 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpants Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 May have already been mentioned but in terms of seeing Villa get actual coverage and discussion, Gerrard would bump us up in the Sky/MOTD luvvie group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2021 Just now, est1874 said: Let's not forget it's Gregg Evans behind this info in the Athletic. Knows about as much about dealings at the club as a witch doctor knows about open-heart surgery. evens is a crafty one. last one to put his article out there. comes across well written, but actually is just pieced together info taken from the journos that actually know what's going on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Dear god do not sack Neil Cutler. From this thread, bits taken from The Athletic Sweet. Let's pay the compensation and get Conte in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: Dear god do not sack Neil Cutler. From this thread, bits taken from The Athletic I'd be amazed if the Athletic knew anything at all. They might have a contact, a player maybe but I doubt they have anyone on the inside that would have a real idea of whats going on. Probably been fed a few tit bits and fabricate the rest for hits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted November 8, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, ciggiesnbeer said: It really was. And you called it at the time I have to say. I disagreed with you in the moment but you may well have been right. Someone who has been against the manager since day 1 is always going to be "right" eventually. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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