Phil Silvers Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 25 minutes of Jack and were up to 5th favourites, the bookies always know what the craic is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 France have made our result look respectable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, TRO said: France have made our result look respectable. It should remind people that the group stages are not just a series of favourites steamrollering minnows. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted June 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2021 Well done these guys and girls who helped the cleanup effort Quote A number of Scotland fans took part in a clean-up of London's Leicester Square after the area was covered in litter during Euro celebrations. The national squad drew 0-0 with England at Wembley, keeping their hopes alive for the knockout stage. Thousands travelled from Scotland to London to support the team despite Covid restrictions, with a large number of them watching the match in pubs. Many are travelling home on Saturday due to a rail strike on Sunday. Link 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Beating Hungary away in a packed stadium in a 30 degrees mid day game should not be considered a walk in the park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Well done these girls who helped the cleanup effort Those aren't girls, they are men wearing kilts! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Hungary aren't a bad team, they put in a good performance against Portugal the scoreline wasn't really a true representation of how the game went, and they were unbeated in eleven games coming into this tournament as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 I just finished the England Scotland game - as a neutral fan it was dour - found myself regularly in and out of paying attention. Prompted a question though. In local sports here, there a general belief that if play a brand that’s good to watch, you will generally be rewarded. I have seen a bit of Belgium and they seem to have a nice mix of defence and flair which is easy on the eye. Is attractive and exciting football generally seen to be a component of a successful team though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said: I just finished the England Scotland game - as a neutral fan it was dour - found myself regularly in and out of paying attention. Prompted a question though. In local sports here, there a general belief that if play a brand that’s good to watch, you will generally be rewarded. I have seen a bit of Belgium and they seem to have a nice mix of defence and flair which is easy on the eye. Is attractive and exciting football generally seen to be a component of a successful team though? I think in a 7 game tournament you can get far by being defensive and negative but over a league season the attacking teams will nearly always do better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 19, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) Actually Souness on ITV just said it how it is with England whilst Neville still pussy footing around saying we have no ball playing centre backs and that we have no choice but to play Rice and Phillips. I can't stand Souness and he's been (understandably) totally pro Scotland but he's the only one I've seen questioning tactics properly and team selection. Also said we weren't much good against Croatia either which most English commentators seem blind to. Edited June 19, 2021 by sidcow 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Actually Souness on ITV just said it how it is with England whilst Neville still pussy footing around saying we have no ball playing centre backs and that we have no choice but to play Rice and Phillips. I can't stand Souness and he's been (understandably) totally pro Scotland but he's the only one I've seen questioning tactics properly and team selection. Our attackers and midfield are struggling due to lack of movement, part of the lack of movement is seemingly southgates insistence on runs in behind, there's no one to pass to How does a ball playing CB change that? Bring in maguire so he can carry the ball to the half way line have no forward pass available so he goes sideways or backwards... Or mings plays the ball in to Phillips on the half way line who has no forward pass available so he goes sideways or backwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Our attackers and midfield are struggling due to lack of movement, part of the lack of movement is seemingly southgates insistence on runs in behind, there's no one to pass to How does a ball playing CB change that? Bring in maguire so he can carry the ball to the half way line have no forward pass available so he goes sideways or backwards... Or mings plays the ball in to Phillips on the half way line who has no forward pass available so he goes sideways or backwards... I havent been following what Neville has said but I thought John Stones was suppose to be the ball playing CB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 We don’t need Rice and Phillips - one of them is enough. This is one of the reasons we’re not getting the ball forward. both can regain possession but they only know how to pass backwards, sideways or simply. Bellingham, Foden (or JWP) would be a better option partnering one of Rice and Phillips. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, sidcow said: Actually Souness on ITV just said it how it is with England whilst Neville still pussy footing around saying we have no ball playing centre backs and that we have no choice but to play Rice and Phillips. I can't stand Souness and he's been (understandably) totally pro Scotland but he's the only one I've seen questioning tactics properly and team selection. Also said we weren't much good against Croatia either which most English commentators seem blind to. Agree completely - normally not a fan of Souness but I thought he was absolutely spot on in his analysis last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Midfield is always a contentious area of debate.....but in my view, balance is the key. having said that.....we still have to rely on players playing well, in whatever their role is. when a team is littered with stars, sometimes players rely on others to do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, theboyangel said: We don’t need Rice and Phillips - one of them is enough. This is one of the reasons we’re not getting the ball forward. both can regain possession but they only know how to pass backwards, sideways or simply. Bellingham, Foden (or JWP) would be a better option partnering one of Rice and Phillips. Southgate only trusts maguire out of his centre backs.....hence the 2 midfield holders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TRO said: Southgate only trusts maguire out of his centre backs.....hence the 2 midfield holders. Maguire is arguably the worst of the three though. He’s certainly not an error free defender. Edited June 19, 2021 by theboyangel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, sidcow said: Actually Souness on ITV just said it how it is with England whilst Neville still pussy footing around saying we have no ball playing centre backs and that we have no choice but to play Rice and Phillips. I can't stand Souness and he's been (understandably) totally pro Scotland but he's the only one I've seen questioning tactics properly and team selection. Also said we weren't much good against Croatia either which most English commentators seem blind to. I actually like souness in general....bit miserly with his praise for Jack, but generally agree with his views of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denaldinho Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Kane needs to be dropped for a few games and use him during knockout phase - He must be totally exhausted after, again, pulling of some great numbers at spurs. Not only that transfer speculation behind him must affecting mental aspect of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Maguire is arguably the worst of the three though. He’s certainly not an error free defender. But i was talking about Southgates opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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