PerryBarrPet Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Interesting, we could play a Buendia / Coutinho as a false 9 and a choice from Watkins/Ings/Bailey as the inside forwards. Getting more like Liverpool - not a bad thing but we need the players to do this successfully. Probably have a better view after the Summer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, lexicon said: Yup - was thinking about the other CAMs/Wingers as opposed to Watkins/Ings - to have players who are more comfortable on the ball/technical. Well Salah / Mane as inside forwards and Firmino as the false 9 is what Liverpool from a few seasons ago did. You basically have 2 forwards as the inside forwards. It's an interesting one and with right mix of players we have options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Well Salah / Mane as inside forwards and Firmino as the false 9 is what Liverpool from a few seasons ago did. You basically have 2 forwards as the inside forwards. It's an interesting one and with right mix of players we have options That's what I was thinking of, yep. We seem to look most dangerous when we're free-form and using technique/passing/touch to get through defences and that seems to not be done by Watkins/Ings, plus the other guys can score goals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Now the window has slammed shut we have the foloowing to keep us going until the summer . 17 games i think. Martinez Olsen Cash n/a Konsa Chambers Mings Hause Digne Young McGinn Chuk1 Luiz Iroegbunam Nakamba Ramsey Sanson Buendia Traore Watkins Ings Coutinho Bailey After letting so many out on loan it still isnt too bad a squad for 17 games . I would love Tim to get some games now but i think if there is any issue with Dougie at dm Calum Chambers will fill in . If i am honest i dont see that we have made enough of a difference to fly up the league but our football in places has really improved and it will be interesting to see if we can build on it and do better second half of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Now the window has slammed shut we have the foloowing to keep us going until the summer . 17 games i think. Martinez Olsen Cash n/a Konsa Chambers Mings Hause Digne Young McGinn Chuk1 Luiz Iroegbunam Nakamba Ramsey Sanson Buendia Traore Watkins Ings Coutinho Bailey After letting so many out on loan it still isnt too bad a squad for 17 games . I would love Tim to get some games now but i think if there is any issue with Dougie at dm Calum Chambers will fill in . If i am honest i dont see that we have made enough of a difference to fly up the league but our football in places has really improved and it will be interesting to see if we can build on it and do better second half of the season Kesler-Hayden is your n/a edit; apologies didn’t see he’s heading out on loan again! Edited January 31, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, a m ole said: Kesler-Hayden is your n/a Went on loan to MK Dons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 Assuming Trez goes out on loan or is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 14 hours ago, paul514 said: It's something I thought about when we were all talking about a DM in the window just gone. When we were linked with Bentencur I wondered if a true DCM was what the club actually wanted and if they wanted to go down the Liverpool route. For me I prefer a double Pivot and I would want a true DCM next to a 6/8 type player so It isn't really what I want. I wouldn’t be surprised if Chambers is tried in the role of holding midfielder. As he has also played as a centre half he has many defensive instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I sometimes see tweets like this pop up. We have our shape. Our system. Gerrard's system. It won't change. It will be 4321. Whether or not it should be every game of course is another argument... Smith was never comfortable away from a wide largely attacking 433 IMO, and it ended up being a weakness. We look more solid now in this formation than the start of the season, but I do think we'll need another option at some point. More than happy to press on and really nail down the roles in this shape for the rest of the season. Just an observation for the future. I think we're pretty vulnerable to wing backs due to the numbers opponents can build up out wide. We start to get opened up as Gerrard wants the wide midfielders to press the fellas on the touchline. They've got so so much ground to cover. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: I sometimes see tweets like this pop up. We have our shape. Our system. Gerrard's system. It won't change. It will be 4321. Whether or not it should be every game of course is another argument... Smith was never comfortable away from a wide largely attacking 433 IMO, and it ended up being a weakness. We look more solid now in this formation than the start of the season, but I do think we'll need another option at some point. More than happy to press on and really nail down the roles in this shape for the rest of the season. Just an observation for the future. I think we're pretty vulnerable to wing backs due to the numbers opponents can build up out wide. We start to get opened up as Gerrard wants the wide midfielders to press the fellas on the touchline. They've got so so much ground to cover. I'm interested in what happens with Bailey when he is back and fully fit.... I wonder if he might become a centre forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I wouldn’t be surprised if Chambers is tried in the role of holding midfielder. As he has also played as a centre half he has many defensive instincts. I've never seen him play there and to be honest. I haven't even paid attention to him other than to notice him being an average premier league player so I am just taking everyone else's word on his qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Tomaszk said: I sometimes see tweets like this pop up. We have our shape. Our system. Gerrard's system. It won't change. It will be 4321. Whether or not it should be every game of course is another argument... Smith was never comfortable away from a wide largely attacking 433 IMO, and it ended up being a weakness. We look more solid now in this formation than the start of the season, but I do think we'll need another option at some point. More than happy to press on and really nail down the roles in this shape for the rest of the season. Just an observation for the future. I think we're pretty vulnerable to wing backs due to the numbers opponents can build up out wide. We start to get opened up as Gerrard wants the wide midfielders to press the fellas on the touchline. They've got so so much ground to cover. That’s because Twitter is full of idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 hours ago, paul514 said: I'm interested in what happens with Bailey when he is back and fully fit.... I wonder if he might become a centre forward? Hadn’t thought about Bailey playing as central striker but given his pace and shooting power this could be a good call. Has he ever played in this position before? Some serious coaching may be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, PerryBarrPet said: Hadn’t thought about Bailey playing as central striker but given his pace and shooting power this could be a good call. Has he ever played in this position before? Some serious coaching may be required. Traore has... a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Traore has... a lot Won’t get a sniff up top and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Won’t get a sniff up top and rightly so. Neither will Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Neither will Bailey Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, PerryBarrPet said: Hadn’t thought about Bailey playing as central striker but given his pace and shooting power this could be a good call. Has he ever played in this position before? Some serious coaching may be required. He has played there before it is his second position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, paul514 said: He has played there before it is his second position. Not really. Vast majority of his games as far as I can tell have been either side of a front three. Transfermarkt suggests he's played more at left midfield, which I assume would mostly be the left the 4 in the 3-4-3 Leverkusen played a few years back, so almost a wing back. Doesn't mean he can't play there, but he's definitely behind Watkins, Ings and probably Traore as well for that spot so can't see him playing there for us. Edited February 4, 2022 by tomsky_11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 18:55, WallisFrizz said: V interesting. I don’t see Ramsey as a 10 but what do I know. Fingers crossed KKH stays focused. I agree Brad Young will be a success in lower leagues. Gerrard really will want to keep hold of John McGinn with that vision of his midfield. I don't see Ramsey as a 10 either, definite 8 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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