VillanousOne Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, messi11 said: Bunedia eges closer is he a brand of lawnmower? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Been out all day, so based on " reports " both us and Arsenal have lodged bids, straight shoot out then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: is he a brand of lawnmower? edges closer to his debut for Argentina 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Been out all day, so based on " reports " both us and Arsenal have lodged bids, straight shoot out then. Already denied (both bids) by Norwich sources - see Buendia thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, messi11 said: edges closer to his debut for Argentina But no closer to Leeds 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Been out all day, so based on " reports " both us and Arsenal have lodged bids, straight shoot out then. by straight shoot out do you mean which set of journalist can make up more b*llocks. Arsenal since Kroenke took power are tredding water and going nowhere, more interested in profit than success, but they are still on a level that we aren't yet. They still win silverwear every few years and get into Europe most years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 11 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: I keep seeing this posted, but I'm struggling to understand the relevance. Do you have a shared bank account with your siblings and parents? If you had a business partner with less wealth would your family be happy you spending their money for your business partners benefit? Because there's no way the shareholding is set up in a way Nassef can indiscriminately invest and dilute Wes. No, but I expect my parents to leave me their money in their will. Nassef is not young so his parents will be reasonably well aged and therefore their is a significant chunk of change coming his way at some point in the not too distant future. He is also pretty wealthy in his own right, at $8bn as I understand it. Equally, as others have said, the investment is just that. Should they get Villa to regular top 4/top 6 and "superleague" status the club will be worth considerably more than they have invested. How do you know what is in the NWSE shareholder's agreement? Wes may be happy with dilution, if his reduced share is of a larger pie but equally may be content to invest alongside pro rata their shareholdings? We don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I think it's the Sawiris' family business that technically owns us, I can't remember the name but it's an acronym of some sort and that company was named on the official site when the takeover was officially announced, I've also seen the name on some of the documents on companies house relating to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, useless said: I think it's the Sawiris' family business that technically owns us, I can't remember the name but it's an acronym of some sort and that company was named on the official site when the takeover was officially announced, I've also seen the name on some of the documents on companies house relating to us. Aren't they worth a combined 40 billion? So we are even more considerably richer than all the YOWs than I thought?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Aren't they worth a combined 40 billion? So we are even more considerably richer than all the YOWs than I thought?! Apparently 36 bil. But I don't understand how. Nassef is worth 9 billion, one of his brothers is worth 3 billion. And his other brother and his dad are each worth 1.5 billion. So I'm not sure how their families combined net worth is 36 billion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 hours ago, TRO said: I think he will be like Matt Le Tissier...Club for life. Jack is a big fish, with us, with Owners who have the wherewithal to build around him. Jack is an icon at Villa and has a say, his opinion is valued and he is revered by the crowd. Aston Villa will gradually fulfil Jacks Dreams....The clubs who are all clamouring for Jack, have their own issues, why should he join clubs with issues, when we seem to have a clear pathway to the promised land. Jacks patience will pay dividends, because many stars will want to join him and Ollie and Carney and Louie and Emi. We are on the up, where the sneaky 6 have issues of desperation to maintain their status. I see all pathways leading to Villa for Jack........I couldn't have had that confidence 5-10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 hours ago, TRO said: Great talent Imo. I think Bellingham is developing in to a top player too.....was we ever in for him? Chuckie >>>>> if you believe Purslow?? It will be interesting to see if the former can progress at a Bellingham like pace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: I hung out with Emile Smith-Rowe's sister once, so I am all for it. Any dalliances with Buendia's sister or Rashica's mum?? Are you a part of the enhanced scouting system, checking personality fit? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 hours ago, TRO said: It seems we like doing things early now Mrs TRO disappointed again?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Jack pretty much saying we got nobody decent at free kicks at Villa so getting fouled doesn't pay unlike playing for England. A top notch specialist set piece taker(corners, free kicks) has to be essential this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, paul514 said: Neither does anyone else, that is just what they tend to cost when proven. I’ll wager there’s been more very good players bought for less than £35m than for more than £35m Edited June 3, 2021 by KangarooVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, barry'sboots said: No, but I expect my parents to leave me their money in their will. Nassef is not young so his parents will be reasonably well aged and therefore their is a significant chunk of change coming his way at some point in the not too distant future. He is also pretty wealthy in his own right, at $8bn as I understand it. Equally, as others have said, the investment is just that. Should they get Villa to regular top 4/top 6 and "superleague" status the club will be worth considerably more than they have invested. How do you know what is in the NWSE shareholder's agreement? Wes may be happy with dilution, if his reduced share is of a larger pie but equally may be content to invest alongside pro rata their shareholdings? We don't know. “Deano, oi, Deano, have an’ova £200m mate, ma and pa will be dead soon so it’s gravy mate, gravy” - NWSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 hours ago, KangarooVillan said: I really dislike people using spending £40m as the benchmark for moving forward. £40m doesn’t guarantee anything, just sign good players, I don’t care how much they cost. Well considering we spent what 33 on Watkins, who really is the only player apart from Martinez Who isn't replaceable (Grealish aside), that kind of speaks for itself. If you set Jack aside Martinez and Watkins can't be replaced unlike the rest. Sure Martinez is a 20 mill keeper but if he had of put those performances in for arsenal then we approached them for his signature we'd be paying that 40 mill. Watkins by Brentfords book could of gone for as much as 40 mill if others had of started a bidding war with Villa and that's for a championship player. Wasn't long ago we were saying over 70 mill for Jack in the championship. You Look at Jack and that's plain as day in how much we have to go out and spend to put quality, real quality next to him. We are on the rise and really our Owners have to start bringing more out to spend and show how ambitious they are the more we float up the table. Almost everyone we have brought since our promotion has been a mystery in how they'd fair in this league and that often has much to do with the price and where we pick them from. If we were to of bought someone who has been proven in this league it's easy going to cost that 40 mill, probably even more now minimum. You find a relegated team and there main attractions, your not getting them for less than 40 mill anymore just in case they ounce back up. We have been fortunate that most our buys have worked to some degree but there have been huge drop offs in consistent performances, yet if we go and smartly buy 40 mill and up players like we smartly went and bought 20 mill players then you can guarantee 40 mill players that we smartly bought will work out better for us than the 20 mill smartly bought players, why?? Because they earned that tag and maintained that price all while the club demand it. Would you agree that our most quality signings have been Martinez and Watkins because I would say they have been. There overall performances throughout the season have been beyond amazing and despite Grealish they have been our stand out players of the season. Sure the whole it takes a team to win games is a massive thing and all of them in some way have pitched in, but without Watkins and Martinez, once Grealish were out, no way would we have been in 11th place. In fact with Wesley or Davis in Watkins place or Steer or Heaten in Martinez place we would of been scrapping above relegation or fighting to get out of the place. 40 mill may even be 50 next season, as football comes back and clubs will want to make what they lose back, I've a feeling many clubs may even hold out for even more now Covid is all but done, that's if the Indian variant doesn't brings Lockdown back that is. I think there are many reasons why alot of us throw a certain price out and stick by it abit and I've listed a fair few of them above. Sure you can find your gems but finding them before they reach a crazy price is not easy at all. The best we do at it is hopefully what we've been doing and continue to do which is by buying all these youths up and hopefully they turn into the next superstars for us. If many of them do, especially how they played and won that youth cup, then we will be very lucky for decades to come and we can say we have many gems coming through and there will be many clubs who want those lads down the line. And no your right 40mill doesn't guarantee anything, spending 100 million on a player doesn't either. You certainly can't deny that a 100 mill plus player hasn't usually earnt his price for good reasons. It is wouldn't you say usually a sign that the higher you go there is a reason a player is priced 20 mill and another reason a player is priced 50 mill, usually consistency sticks out. Sure this season has shown different in alot of ways, it's been a fair bit crazy. Come next season with fans back in stadiums, quality will shine again when pressure hits and the inconsistencies will show up more regular in players. Those price tags and what comes with the different priced players will soon set the prices apart again next season, we just have to keep buying smartly this summer. If we buy smartly at those two different prices, 20 mill and 50 mill players for example I'd sooner have us buy 50 mill players now and put them next to our captain and upgrade us properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said: “Deano, oi, Deano, have an’ova £200m mate, ma and pa will be dead soon so it’s gravy mate, gravy” - NWSE Your going to feel daft now if they fetch that out to play or something near that number lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Jack pretty much saying we got nobody decent at free kicks at Villa so getting fouled doesn't pay unlike playing for England. A top notch specialist set piece taker(corners, free kicks) has to be essential this summer. Pereira high up for that and at relegated midlands team 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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