hippo Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: Were they sat in away end as surely difficult to tell what happened from there given where the benches are at Emirates compared to away end? If they did the corporate tier then could've seen it better I guess. No way Sanson will be feeling good about things currently. Gave up regular spot at Marseille (who are having a good season in France) to come and sit on bench at mid table English team. Of course injuries haven't helped but wonder if his off field relationship with DS isn't great and he gets the feeling the manager didn't really ever want him. Don't think he'll be here in a years time, slowly going way of Engels and Gulibert. Could never see why we brought him to be honest. It looked a strange move from day 1. I think the 50% mark down on his asking price caught our eye and we jumped in without too much research. All that bollox how we brought him but he was for next season ! Wot a load of tosh I always thought he looked a fringe player at best - even that looks a way off now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Could never see why we brought him to be honest. It looked a strange move from day 1. I think the 50% mark down on his asking price caught our eye and we jumped in without too much research. All that bollox how we brought him but he was for next season ! Wot a load of tosh I always thought he looked a fringe player at best - even that looks a way off now He had a good reputation at Marseille in fairness. Played regularly in CL so while not quite French international standard, sort of player we needed to sign. I think it's a few things really. He's similar in style to McGinn who while DS remains will always be a certain starter and play every minute of every league game he's fit for. And DS probably had pressure above to play young players more so Ramsey obvious one given he featured regularly last season so that adds to midfield congestion. DS also has a patchy record with some of our foreign picks. Really from take up in 2019 Luiz and Trez only two he's stuck with. Engels and Gulibert both looked fine at start, then lost form and were never given another chance and Sanson probably won't even get that. Strange when he had this model at Brentford and largely worked with it for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 hours ago, hippo said: Could never see why we brought him to be honest. It looked a strange move from day 1. I think the 50% mark down on his asking price caught our eye and we jumped in without too much research. All that bollox how we brought him but he was for next season ! Wot a load of tosh I always thought he looked a fringe player at best - even that looks a way off now Really? I thought you were his biggest fan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, VillanousOne said: Really? I thought you were his biggest fan? Why would I be a fan of a player with 4 starts in 11 months ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 From the fleeting appearances I've seen of Sanson he does look a quality player. I just hope he can find some consistency, gets given a chance to play some games and show people what he's made of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 15 hours ago, hippo said: Why would I be a fan of a player with 4 starts in 11 months ? You spend more time talking about him than any other player so presume you really want him to do well for the club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted October 24, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2021 19 hours ago, ferguson1 said: Radio WM commented last night that once Ramsey went on, Sanson went a bit mad in the dugout as they could see him gesticulating and flapping his arms. Cannot say or confirm that a bottle was thrown etc though. Don’t blame him being disgruntled but there is a time and place to show your unhappiness, and that is in private with Smith. Don’t blame him for being disappointed but I’d imagine the club are pretty disappointed in him given what we spent on him and what he has been paid. If there is one person really not in a position to complain it is him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 15 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: From the fleeting appearances I've seen of Sanson he does look a quality player. I just hope he can find some consistency, gets given a chance to play some games and show people what he's made of. I just want him injury free at the moment for a few months, that for me would be a start. I’m sure if he stays injury free he’ll get games. I know he’s back on the bench but he’s only just back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: You spend more time talking about him than any other player so presume you really want him to do well for the club Because of the ridiculous PR about him at the time. I just felt the need to redress the balance. All those experts who thought we brought him Jan for the following season. In reality we brought a half fit player - who has yet to really show for us. And now seems to be frustrated he isn't getting selected. As I've said more than once he's a fringe player....at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillanousOne Posted October 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, hippo said: Because of the ridiculous PR about him at the time. I just felt the need to redress the balance. All those experts who thought we brought him Jan for the following season. In reality we brought a half fit player - who has yet to really show for us. And now seems to be frustrated he isn't getting selected. As I've said more than once he's a fringe player....at best. None of us know if he is good enough or a fringe player until he stays fit long enough to get a run in the team, on current form I would say he deserves match time as he can’t do any worse than the current midfield. He doesn’t deserve PR or praise as he hasn’t earnt any in a Villa shirt, but not really much point writing him off yet either. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: None of us know if he is good enough or a fringe player until he stays fit long enough to get a run in the team, on current form I would say he deserves match time as he can’t do any worse than the current midfield. He doesn’t deserve PR or praise as he hasn’t earnt any in a Villa shirt, but not really much point writing him off yet either. Agreed. But it's only now we are getting realistic opinions on him. Rightly or wrongly I don't see him displacing either Mcginn or Luiz. He's vying with Ramsay for that 1st reserve slot imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 hours ago, hippo said: Because of the ridiculous PR about him at the time. I just felt the need to redress the balance. All those experts who thought we brought him Jan for the following season. In reality we brought a half fit player - who has yet to really show for us. And now seems to be frustrated he isn't getting selected. As I've said more than once he's a fringe player....at best. So you want to constantly shout down a Villa player as shit because some people thought he was a bargain signing Strange way of supporting the club 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: Agreed. But it's only now we are getting realistic opinions on him. Rightly or wrongly I don't see him displacing either Mcginn or Luiz. He's vying with Ramsay for that 1st reserve slot imo. If we play a 433 with Buendia and Bailey wide I think it would be interesting to see Sanson play as the third midfielder, but would agree Ramsey is probably ahead of him for that role. To be honest I am so fed up of McGinn and Doug losing possession in critical areas I would be tempted to drop one or even both but that is unrealistic and reactionary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, Zatman said: So you want to constantly shout down a Villa player as shit because some people thought he was a bargain signing Strange way of supporting the club Just an alternative viewpoint giving a bit of context. I never saw him as a bargain. Always looked a tall order. It hasn't altered the way I support the club. I still brought my season ticket and watch as many games as I can. I'm sure there must be players we've signed that you've thought...".hmmmm can't see that working out. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenda Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 He was getting into his stride, running the show at Stamford Bridge the other week. Given how we tracked him and pounced early, I'd be expecting more than fringe-player status once he gets into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 2 hours ago, hippo said: Just an alternative viewpoint giving a bit of context. I never saw him as a bargain. Always looked a tall order. It hasn't altered the way I support the club. I still brought my season ticket and watch as many games as I can. I'm sure there must be players we've signed that you've thought...".hmmmm can't see that working out. " Why did you think “can’t see that working out” with this particular signing? As for whether he’ll be any good for us I don’t see how anybody can tell. He’s hardly played any football so to form an opinion on him is pretty difficult other than to say it would be nice if he was fit once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 minute ago, tom_avfc said: Why did you think “can’t see that working out” with this particular signing? As for whether he’ll be any good for us I don’t see how anybody can tell. He’s hardly played any football so to form an opinion on him is pretty difficult other than to say it would be nice if he was fit once in a while. Well we signed him in Jan. Even then DS didn't play him right away. If he was so good, why were there no takers @ £30m ? he never looked robust enough for me. Seems ok if he had time on the ball. But the hurly burly of the prem never seemed to suit him. with DS grappling to get a handle on things -hes going to get some game time soon. So we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 hours ago, hippo said: Well we signed him in Jan. Even then DS didn't play him right away. If he was so good, why were there no takers @ £30m ? he never looked robust enough for me. Seems ok if he had time on the ball. But the hurly burly of the prem never seemed to suit him. with DS grappling to get a handle on things -hes going to get some game time soon. So we will see. Never seemed to suit him. Except he's been the best player in 2 of the games he started for us. Wolves last season and Chelsea this year. You are embarrassing yourself stop it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Never seemed to suit him. Except he's been the best player in 2 of the games he started for us. Wolves last season and Chelsea this year. You are embarrassing yourself stop it. Ok. I stand corrected then ! I might be being on harsh on the guy but I'm underwhelmed so far. He's obviously fit now if he's as good as you say - he should be starter from now on ???? Or maybe DSs sees Mcginn, Luiz, Ramsay, Buendia as better options right now despite Sanson s sterling 1.5 'best player' performances in 10 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Never seemed to suit him. Except he's been the best player in 2 of the games he started for us. Wolves last season and Chelsea this year. You are embarrassing yourself stop it. It is really embarrassing borderline vendetta, probably has posted 20 percent of the comments in this thread and mainly just bashing him. Including the weekly update that he is injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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