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Just now, theboyangel said:

Whereas 5 points from 5 means we're safe? 

 

It's not great but they've had a very easy start. They had Bristol and Reading at home, we have them away. Also played Bolton and Burton who are two of the favourites for relegation.

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1 hour ago, Czechlad said:

We've conceded 3 more goals than them. I think we are in a worse spot to be honest. They lost 2-0 to Reading. We lost 3-0. 

We lost 2-1 away to reading. We lost 3-0 away to the team top of the table

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Looks like Arry has spunked a feckload of cash on the loan players.

Seemingly they are paying £1.2m to Southampton to loan him and they've almost doubled his salary from £10k a week to £18k a week. Oh and some agent trousered £200k for the deal. :blink:

What happened to young players going out on loan to get valuable game time, since when did they get paid more than they were earning at their parent club????

Utterly bonkers business from Blues, if their other loan deals from Arsenal are anything like this then I hate to think the money they are paying out.

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You could not make this up,

Birmingham City’s afternoon at St Andrew’s on Saturday afternoon was certainly one to forget.

The defeat by Reading leaves Blues with four points from their opening five games and doubtless business to come in the next few days.

For one Blues fan, however, he’ll be able to forget the episode pretty quickly - as he fell asleep in a toilet cubicle during the game, and didn't resurface until hours after the final whistle

Upon entering the ground again, portraying his incredulity with, ah, colourful language, the Bluenose approached an employee of the club for directions to the exit - and the final score.

Learning that Blues were on the wrong end of a 2-0 score-line, he wasn’t best pleased

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sleepy-birmingham-city-fan-gone-13537037

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21 hours ago, theboyangel said:

Whereas 5 points from 5 means we're safe? 

 

We have a far superior squad to them we will be nowhere near relegation plus as I said they had a very kind start fixture wise, even for a mediocre side like them I'd of expected 7-10 points from those games, I think they will be near the drop but they may survive.

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51 minutes ago, fifamad said:

We have a far superior squad to them we will be nowhere near relegation plus as I said they had a very kind start fixture wise, even for a mediocre side like them I'd of expected 7-10 points from those games, I think they will be near the drop but they may survive.

We have a far superior squad to Cardiff, Reading, Hull and Bristol City too.

It doesnt guarantee anything.

FWIW I don't think small Heath will get relegated but they will be financially crippled by redknapp. 

 

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16 hours ago, theboyangel said:

FWIW I don't think small Heath will get relegated but they will be financially crippled by redknapp. 

Disagree,  I think they are in absolute turmoil again.  Small heath fans are saying it's worse now that under Zola so that's very positive at this stage + injuries to new loaned players looks to be all going how it should be.

If the window shuts and they have not got 3 or 4 of quality in then they will go down.

At some point in a managers career the old magic is gone,  the well is empty and it's all over.

I can only hope this is the case.  Looking at pictures of "Mr Wibble Wobble", I think he knows it's gone as well.

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Sorry if already been posted:-

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-eye-watering-striker-loan-11060633

 

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Birmingham City 's season-long loan deal for rookie Southampton striker Sam Gallagher will cost the Championship club a ­staggering £43,000 a week.

The Blues beat Midlands ­rivals Aston Villa, Wolves and Derby to ex-England Under-20 international ­Gallagher – but only after agreeing to cough up the kind of cash that proves how money madness has ­infected the transfer market.

Sunday Mirror Sport has learned that Birmingham will pay Saints a £1.2million ‘rental’ fee for a player who scored his only ­top-flight goal more than three years ago.

They are also handing ­Gallagher, 21, a hefty ­increase on the £10,000-a-week deal he banked when signing a new four-year ­contract at St Mary’s last month. He will now earn £18,000 a week ­playing for Harry Redknapp this season.

Birmingham have also shelled out ­another £200,000 in agent’s fees for the deal to be brokered.

Southampton’s initial ­demand to send Gallagher out on loan was £2m – but they ­reduced their asking price when there were no takers.

allagher’s temporary ­transfer – one of dozens of loan deals completed this summer – illustrates how much ­lower-division clubs are ­prepared to gamble in a ­desperate scramble to hit the £200m Premier League ­jackpot.

The cash sums Birmingham are lavishing on one player – who scored just 12 goals in 47 ­appearances ­for Blackburn as they were relegated last season – are becoming the rule rather than the ­exception.

A source, ­who is involved at the business end of the player-recruitment ­industry, said: “Loan deals were introduced to help clubs in times of an ­emergency.

"Then it was used as a means of ­allowing young players to gain experience at a lower level.Now, with more money than ever swilling around football, the ­system is just ­another way for all parties ­involved to line their pockets.

“Sometimes that can be to the detriment of the clubs, sometimes to the detriment of the players. But some clubs are taking huge ­financial risks.

“It wouldn’t be such a gamble if payments and bonuses were linked to ­success. But payments on loan deals are front-loaded – with clubs often forced to give players ­minutes on the pitch because agreements have ­penalties ­attached if players do not make enough ­appearances.

“Those financial pressures often force managers to pick players they do not want in their team. Payments should not be made up front and clubs should not be financially punished if the manager takes the decision to leave a certain player out.

“The money being paid for loan deals should be linked to success and made ­payable at the end of the season.”

There have been calls for loans deals in the ­Premier League to be scrapped at a time when the clubs bank in excess of £100m every season from TV ­revenues.

Many top sides look to send players to lower-­division clubs in a bid to give them minutes on the pitch in a competitive ­environment. Some are often forced to go to teams against their will, while others use a loan deal as a means of getting a wage rise.

The insider added: “Too many loan deals are being done to generate money – be that for a club, an agent or a player – and often aren’t being arranged to benefit the ­footballer’s ­development.

“The arrangement needs to be looked into and governed properly.”

 

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