StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Keyblade said: When was the last time it happened? In my lifetime so far, ever incumbent has gotten a second term. Yep, and it looks like Biden could win by 50/60 votes. It won't even be close. It's a myth that Trump has done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 It feels like it's only a matter of time now till he tweets all true Americans to take up arms and attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: When was the last time it happened? In my lifetime so far, ever incumbent has gotten a second term. Bush senior, so 1992. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: When was the last time it happened? In my lifetime so far, ever incumbent has gotten a second term. Bush Senior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Bush you say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Bush senior, so 1992. And did people say he did 'really well' even whilst losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He really didn't, incumbents don't lose... Yes first incumbent since George Bush Snr in 1992 to lose and only the third incumbent to lose in last 90 years. He has failed and his legacy is a diabolical one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Keyblade said: When was the last time it happened? In my lifetime so far, ever incumbent has gotten a second term. 1992 when Bush Snr lost to Bill Clinton. Before that was 1980 when Carter got tanked by Ronnie Reagan.You usually have to have a terrible first term and/or a poor running economy to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Yes first incumbent since George Bush Snr in 1992 to lose and only the third incumbent to lose in last 90 years. He has failed and his legacy is a diabolical one. Also impeached, don’t forget to add that to his historic legacy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 If he tries to incite a civil war instead of bowing out gracefully he'll lose out on the historical whitewashing and belated appreciation monsters like Bush (Jr) and Reagan have received. Will completely shit on whatever legacy he might have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I still don't wanna get my hopes up. I fully expect to read tonight he's won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: 1992 when Bush Snr lost to Bill Clinton. Before that was 1980 when Carter got tanked by Ronnie Reagan.You usually have to have a terrible first term and/or a poor running economy to lose. Carter got the last laugh though. He seems to be immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, LondonLax said: Also impeached, don’t forget to add that to his historic legacy. Kind of incredible that he never suffered any sort of electoral penalty for that. Probably the clearest demonstration of how polarised the country is; at the end of it all, Democrats were more convinced he was guilty, Republicans were more convinced he was innocent, and his approval rating barely moved an inch. Quite remarkable really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I still don't wanna get my hopes up. I fully expect to read tonight he's won. He doesn't really have a path to victory. He has to win GA, PA, then WI and MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 If this is within 1%, then Trump is entitled to ask for a recount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Something largely, but not entirely, off-topic to cheer yourselves with: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: If this is within 1%, then Trump is entitled to ask for a recount. meaning he will. let's hope it's not this close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: If this is within 1%, then Trump is entitled to ask for a recount. But I thought he wanted everyone to stop counting, so confusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Kind of incredible that he never suffered any sort of electoral penalty for that. Probably the clearest demonstration of how polarised the country is; at the end of it all, Democrats were more convinced he was guilty, Republicans were more convinced he was innocent, and his approval rating barely moved an inch. Quite remarkable really. You could probably say the same about Clinton really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He doesn't really have a path to victory. He has to win GA, PA, then WI and MI. We'll see. Hope you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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