KenjiOgiwara Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, LondonLax said: You could probably say the same about Clinton really. What did Clinton do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, KenjiOgiwara said: What did Clinton do? Lied about getting a BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Lied about getting a BJ and amazingly people actually gave a shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, LondonLax said: You could probably say the same about Clinton really. It made Clinton more popular! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: What did Clinton do? Also got impeached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Kind of incredible that he never suffered any sort of electoral penalty for that. Probably the clearest demonstration of how polarised the country is; at the end of it all, Democrats were more convinced he was guilty, Republicans were more convinced he was innocent, and his approval rating barely moved an inch. Quite remarkable really. Only 1 republican (mitt romney) voted for impeachment, even though privately most would realise that Trump was guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LondonLax Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It made Clinton more popular! A sign of those times really. You wouldn’t get that reaction these days, post ‘me too’ (or at least I hope not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, LondonLax said: You could probably say the same about Clinton really. Not really, one got impeached for lying about an affair, the other got impeached for obstructing an investigation in to him trying to bribe a foreign government to interfere in the election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Only 1 republican (mitt romney) voted for impeachment, even though privately most would realise that Trump was guilty. To be honest, that's one more Republican than there was Democrat voting for Clinton's impeachment (0 to both counts), though that one was less polarised, given that several Republicans *also* voted Not Guilty. 12 minutes ago, LondonLax said: A sign of those times really. You wouldn’t get that reaction these days, post ‘me too’ (or at least I hope not). I wouldn't bet on it; it's not like Democrats have spent much time focusing on Biden's habit of sniffing girls' hair, and (more seriously) Republicans have spent even less time focusing on the 20 or thereabouts credible sexual assault allegations against Trump. Partisan politics wins out over sexual morality at the end of the day. Kirsten Gillibrand was massively unpopular during the Democratic primary for forcing Al Franken to retire too. Edited November 4, 2020 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 4, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, LondonLax said: A sign of those times really. You wouldn’t get that reaction these days, post ‘me too’ (or at least I hope not). What does #metoo have to do with it? Two consenting adults as far as I remember. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Biden still with a chance of winning Pennsylvania due to how blue the outstanding mail-in ballots are: Looking good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: What does #metoo have to do with it? Two consenting adults as far as I remember. Actually, this is true isn't it? It was perjury Clinton was impeached for. (Of course I think he may have had plenty of #metoo stuff in the closet, but not what he was impeached for) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: What does #metoo have to do with it? Two consenting adults as far as I remember. There's probably an argument to be made that with Clinton being Monica Lewinski's boss it would have put her in situation where she felt she couldn't say no, especially as he was the President. However, as far as I'm aware, there has been no allegation along those lines and as you say, it was consensual. The only really shitty thing was the cheating element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 4, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, HanoiVillan said: Actually, this is true isn't it? It was perjury Clinton was impeached for. (Of course I think he may have had plenty of #metoo stuff in the closet, but not what he was impeached for) Yep, twas the lying to a Grand Jury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I wonder where they found them? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 4, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, MessiWillSignForVilla said: There's probably an argument to be made that with Clinton being Monica Lewinski's boss it would have put her in situation where she felt she couldn't say no, especially as he was the President. However, as far as I'm aware, there has been no allegation along those lines and as you say, it was consensual. The only really shitty thing was the cheating element. That clearly isn't an argument. Lewinski has been interviewed many times and not once has she ever hinted at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: To be honest, that's one more Republican than there was Democrat voting for Clinton's impeachment (0 to both counts), though that one was less polarised, given that several Republicans *also* voted Not Guilty. I wouldn't bet on it; it's not like Democrats have spent much time focusing on Biden's habit of sniffing girls' hair, and (more seriously) Republicans have spent even less time focusing on the 20 or thereabouts credible sexual assault allegations against him. Partisan politics wins out over sexual morality at the end of the day. Kirsten Gillibrand was massively unpopular during the Democratic primary for forcing Al Franken to retire too. Add Tara Reade to that who has been getting dogs abuse since she came out with her story, not least from Mrs. Me Too herself, Alyssa Milano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 If you've had this one? Sorry. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: That clearly isn't an argument. Lewinski has been interviewed many times and not once has she ever hinted at that. Definitely, it was more pointing out that if you were to make an argument, that would be the one, not that it was necessarily a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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