Genie Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rodders said: woops I love the glance from the presenter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's arguably *somewhat* a fairer way to do it, at least in small states with only 2 or 3 congressional districts or states whose congressional district boundaries have been drawn by nonpartisan/bipartisan commissions. Otherwise though, you end up with the problem of the presidential vote being affected by gerrymandered congressional district lines. For example, Obama won Ohio twice, by winning the statewide vote, and although it has become redder since then it could still be won by a Democrat in a big year, but there's no way Democrats can take a majority of its gerrymandered congressional districts. Yeah this is spot on. Proportionate distribution of EC votes is much more democratic, but until you can ensure those votes are split evenly, then it won't be democratic. I wonder if they could grant the votes based on % of popular vote per state? Then you'd have some issues with rounding in States with small amounts of EC votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Damn, that looks good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2020 How cool from the presenter, just a casual flick away like it never happened 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: With Donny looking to lose, and Putin to step down, are we in for sustained better times or the beginning of even worse in a few years? Worse. Trumpism isn't going anywhere and Putin would be 'stepping down' only symbolically. Edited November 6, 2020 by snowychap Take away p 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Damn, that looks good. If my shonky maths is correct. Of the 1843 votes counted between updates Trump only received 25% of those votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: How cool from the presenter, just a casual flick away like it never happened I usually wipe it on the curtains and pretend it never happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seat68 said: If my shonky maths is correct. Of the 1843 votes counted between updates Trump only received 25% of those votes. Forget your shonky maths, Go here as posted by @snowychap earlier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Seat68 said: If my shonky maths is correct. Of the 1843 votes counted between updates Trump only received 25% of those votes. Two factors there: Biden voters are overwhelmingly more likely to vote by mail, even in 'Trump' counties for (flattering reason) Trump told them not to and (unflattering reason) Biden supporters take COVID seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jareth Posted November 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2020 A nice shock and awe style Pennsylvania sweep in a few hours and Trump and all his shitty plots will be floored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, ml1dch said: So what would happen if he...you know, before being sworn in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, sidcow said: It's probably fair to say that if the Democrats had put up a slightly more suitable candidate than the doddery old man with dubious background issues, they probably would have won it by a landslide isn't it? Well maybe or maybe not. Biden centrist ground has built up the coalition to probably take him over the line. He has crucially appealed to some of the old lost working class democrat vote which Clinton did less well on, and that has carried him Wisconsin, Michigan and probably Pennsylvania. He has done actually a bit worse in the black and latino vote than Hilary but those votes in the swing states up north as not as quite as important. A small point is that perhaps the Libertarian vote although small (about 1.2% nationwide) probably has picked up some more liberal minded republican vote (as in small government, non foreign intervention, balanced budgets) than democrat and that might have also helped swing it. Edited November 6, 2020 by The Fun Factory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Can Trump resign to avoid being beat? I wouldn’t put it past him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: So what would happen if he...you know, before being sworn in? I'm pretty sure Harris would be President, given it's a joint ticket. But @HanoiVillanknows everything about this sort of thing, so would defer to his judgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Can Trump resign to avoid being beat? I wouldn’t put it past him. Doubt it, he's going full Untergang in his bunker, Melania will leave him and his slimy cabinet will slowly resign, starting with the Defense secretary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Before he's sworn in? I believe Trump would stay President forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StefanAVFC Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Poor Cheetoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I'm pretty sure Harris would be President, given it's a joint ticket. But @HanoiVillanknows everything about this sort of thing, so would defer to his judgement. That's very kind, but I'm actually not completely confident about this one. There are some scenarios laid out in this article: https://www.vox.com/21502447/trump-biden-death-what-happens The TL/DR is that it's complicated by when the death happens. If Biden died before the electoral college votes in December, Harris would likely become president, per the 20th amendment: “If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President.” If it happens after the electoral college votes, but before the inauguration, it's less clear, but probably the same thing. I think in practical political reality, it would be very hard not to make Harris the president. Nobody else would have any reasonable claim to a mandate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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