SecretVillaScout Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: My one and only criticism of emery is he hasnt given any youth a chance. Duran i dont really count as we signed him for money. But barring k young and archer he hasnt given any opportunity to people like kesler. Sometimes you just have to throw them in and see how thwy do for 10-15 mins I'm sorry but you cant criticise a man who gave debuts to Isco, Saka, Martinelli, Emile Smith Rowe, Yeremy Pino. You really cant. Maybe the youngsters are just not good enough. every thought about that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, SecretVillaScout said: I'm sorry but you cant criticise a man who gave debuts to Isco, Saka, Martinelli, Emile Smith Rowe, Yeremy Pino. You really cant. Maybe the youngsters are just not good enough. every thought about that? How many of them were in the EL? Pino, Saka and ESR definitley Even the conference league would be so big for us, imagine in 2 seasons time the likes of Aaron Ramsey and Tim being kept around the first team for when we have a home game vs the team 4th in the Hungarian league, would be massive for their development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretVillaScout Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, villa4europe said: How many of them were in the EL? Pino, Saka and ESR definitley Even the conference league would be so big for us, imagine in 2 seasons time the likes of Aaron Ramsey and Tim being kept around the first team for when we have a home game vs the team 4th in the Hungarian league, would be massive for their development Oh yeah sure some of played if we have more cup games. I think criticizing Emery is hash. And most of the players even close to 1st team would be out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 hours ago, SecretVillaScout said: I'm sorry but you cant criticise a man who gave debuts to Isco, Saka, Martinelli, Emile Smith Rowe, Yeremy Pino. You really cant. Maybe the youngsters are just not good enough. every thought about that? Its a smal criticism nothing major for me but i think if i was a youngster at villa and im seeing two keepers ans a spot not being taken on the bench im not getting much of a chance here at villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteendhero Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 I heard that he was training with the first team but is now training with the youth due to his attitude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 He was training with first team the last time they realeased a training video, which I think was just before the last match that the first team played, he's been training with first team regularly since Emery came in. Not sure where these strange rumours of him having a bad attitude keep coming from, I've seen nothing to suggest anything close to that, quite the opposite in fact, he just doesn't come across as that type at all, from what I've seen, seems similar kind of personality to Aaron Ramsey, no arrogance to him, and comes across as very humble and grounded, no surprise that he and Ramsey were captains of the youth team when their age group was altogether and playing well. Of course I'm only going on what I've seen on social media, interviews, and watching him play, but that's probably better than going by rumours. He might not be training at all presently because he had to come off in last U21 game with an injury, hopefully it wasn't too bad and he's available for tomorrow against Norwich. With that in mind should be said that all our youngsters currently still at the club will be training with the youth team on certain days, because they still play for the lower age groups, so obviously need to train U21 managment and alongside other U21s that aren't training with first team yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: My one and only criticism of emery is he hasnt given any youth a chance. Duran i dont really count as we signed him for money. But barring k young and archer he hasnt given any opportunity to people like kesler. Sometimes you just have to throw them in and see how thwy do for 10-15 mins If they’re good enough Emery will give them an opportunity, he has a proven record of doing so Guendouzi, Saka, Martinelli , Pino, Chukweze, Jackson, Mata, David Silva, Alvaro Negredo , Kimpembe just to name a few are all players given an opportunity by Emery at a young age. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Demitri_C said: My one and only criticism of emery is he hasnt given any youth a chance. Duran i dont really count as we signed him for money. But barring k young and archer he hasnt given any opportunity to people like kesler. Sometimes you just have to throw them in and see how thwy do for 10-15 mins Disagree. All our best youth out on loan. Who is Emery to give a chance to? Only reason KKH is here is because he didn't have another club to go to. He was at a bottom championship club and his weakness was defending. We play with a defensive RB who doesn't attack. So he's not involved in first team squad on march day so he can play games for the U23s. I'm sure Emery has said he awards spots on the bench based on performance, you earn the right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, holteendhero said: I heard that he was training with the first team but is now training with the youth due to his attitude And we trust your bullshit because? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted March 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2023 Most of our youngsters close to being ready for first team, and by most I mean all of them except for Kesler, are already out on loan, the other youngsters still at the club just aren't good enough, which isn't unusual every single academy has those, and needs them to help facilitate the development of the better youngsters; Or they're highly rated, Wilson, Triston Rowe, Kellyman, and so on, but not ready for first team football, again not unusual, most sixteen and seventeen year olds aren't. Another way of looking at it none of the youngsters currently at the club other than Kesler would get game time at Championship level, so no surprise that they aren't really making the match day squads with us in the Premier League, they could be put on the bench as a token gesture to the academy or to give them the experience, but no point of that if they're not going to be used, they can still trave with the squad and get the experience even if not on the bench. Next season I think we will see the likes of Kellyman, Feeney, Triston Rowe if still with us, and Kadan Young come into contention for game time in cup matches, as will be in that specific stage of their development where probably still too young to go on loan, but in the right circumstances and if good enough we can start giving them some experience here and there. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretVillaScout Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Its a smal criticism nothing major for me but i think if i was a youngster at villa and im seeing two keepers ans a spot not being taken on the bench im not getting much of a chance here at villa I dont think it would be a good look to the youngsters we have on loan if Emery giving chances to these players who are less experienced, younger then them to the first team before them. Defiantly not earned. chances need to be earned. Edited March 30, 2023 by SecretVillaScout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Demitri_C said: My one and only criticism of emery is he hasnt given any youth a chance. Duran i dont really count as we signed him for money. But barring k young and archer he hasnt given any opportunity to people like kesler. Sometimes you just have to throw them in and see how thwy do for 10-15 mins He played an 18 year old in the europa league final v Man. United. Also put in Saka and Martinelli as 18 year old starters for Arsenal. KHH couldn't get in a poor Huddersfield team regularly so I can't think of too many other young players in recent times who've struggled in a championship loan and then suddenly got premier league minutes. I would assume he'll be on the bench in next few matches so perhaps he'll get a cameo if we get a comfortable win like v Bournemouth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 20 hours ago, SecretVillaScout said: I'm sorry but you cant criticise a man who gave debuts to Isco, Saka, Martinelli, Emile Smith Rowe, Yeremy Pino. You really cant. Maybe the youngsters are just not good enough. every thought about that? Ther is always that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I think you always have to remember that Emery has very high standards, and also be aware that, coupled with that, very few youngsters actually make it to playing in the PL. It is going to be very difficult for our youngsters to convince him that they are good enough. Also, we want him to bring in his own, and better, players, so I suppose we cannot have it both ways. Emery knows football; he will promote any youngsters he sees with potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted March 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2023 There is great interview with him on Sky basically using his knowledge as a player and the things he never got in his coaching to give players what they need. He really is the business bloody love him! He will give anyone a chance if they listen and prove it in training no matter what age it seems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteendhero Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 22 hours ago, CVByrne said: And we trust your bullshit because? You don’t have to. It was something I was told when at the last U21 match against Southampton from someone at the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, holteendhero said: You don’t have to. It was something I was told when at the last U21 match against Southampton from someone at the club To be fair, you're trying to convince a group of guys/girls who managed 327 pages of fish and tits puns based off of total hearsay on a certain current Norwich City player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretVillaScout Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Not playing for the U21's. Must be travelling to London with the first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, SecretVillaScout said: Not playing for the U21's. Must be travelling to London with the first team Lets hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Not in squad today and wasn't in squad for U21s yesterday. I presume he's still injured as came off with injury in last U21 game before the international break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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