rayk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Leon Bailey I don’t think we’re going to sign a first team player that hasn’t previously played in the UK. So for me it’ll be 1 or 2 from Edoaurd, Sarr, Benrahma, Brewster, Barkley, RLC, Sessegnon, Henry. That fits with all the signings we’ve made to date. As mentioned previously, Sarr would be #1 choice, with RLC on loan to strengthen the CM. We could possibly sign Nelsson or Dahramy but they’re squad players and Lange would personally vouch for them. We’re not going to spend £25m+ on a player unproven domestically so can forget Bundesliga, Serie A, La Liga or Lihue 1 signings this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Who has 2 DMs? That's incredibly negative and sounds Pulisesque. Will never happen under Smith. The last good dedicated DM we had in 4141 was Whelan. It's single pivot and basically sweeper but in front of the back 4 and patrols laterally and rarely gets forward 2 DM's isn't necessarily negative. The full backs play high up the pitch thus allowing the wide forwards to tuck in . This leaves one midfielder as a free roaming playmaker. The two DM's are there for cover. You in essence have a front 6. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Who has 2 DMs? That's incredibly negative and sounds Pulisesque. Will never happen under Smith. The last good dedicated DM we had in 4141 was Whelan. It's single pivot and basically sweeper but in front of the back 4 and patrols laterally and rarely gets forward Agreed but it’s down to the whole debate on Jack moving to AM. I think the collective feeling is that SJM and Dougie wouldn’t have enough bite and would get overrun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, rayk said: So for me it’ll be 1 or 2 from Edoaurd, Sarr, Benrahma, Brewster, Barkley, RLC, Sessegnon, Henry. Edouard,sarr and benhrama will cost upwards of 40m each and that's not going to happen Rico henry will be expensive as well..brewster is 25m which is daylight robbery,sessegnon is meh and unless chelsea decide to pay half of barkleys wages we aint getting him on loan either8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, rayk said: Agreed but it’s down to the whole debate on Jack moving to AM. I think the collective feeling is that SJM and Dougie wouldn’t have enough bite and would get overrun. That's fine but I disagree as long as the rest of the team is putting in defensive shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, paul514 said: Yea if we have a defensive midfielder in as well other wise I’d rather have RLC as he is a good all rounder No thx don’t want an all rounder. We got one. I want Barkley- goals and assists, class signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: Edouard,sarr and benhrama will cost upwards of 40m each and that's not going to happen Rico henry will be expensive as well..brewster is 25m which is daylight robbery,sessegnon is meh and unless chelsea decide to pay half of barkleys wages we aint getting him on loan either8 When I said 1 or 2, I think 1 will definitely be a loan of Barkley, RLC.....and yes Chelsea will subside a portion of their wages. Agree Sarr or Edoaurd would be £35m ish. Benrahma wouldn’t cost more than Watkins imo, so prob £22m. i don’t think we’re going to go for a LB this window so Sessegnon and Henry more by way of example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Who has 2 DMs? That's incredibly negative and sounds Pulisesque. Will never happen under Smith. The last good dedicated DM we had in 4141 was Whelan. It's single pivot and basically sweeper but in front of the back 4 and patrols laterally and rarely gets forward It's about having bodies in defensive areas rather than necessarily calling a player a defensive midfielder. Liverpool play with 3 in the middle, all capable off tracking and tracking back to their box. It depends on the opposition and really it's just a tactical theory because in reality Nakamba is not really good enough to be starting PL games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just now, Mr_Dogg said: It depends on the opposition and really it's just a tactical theory because in reality Nakamba is not really good enough to be starting PL games. Sure but we weren't talking about cover but starting 11. I want a #10 to come in not a DM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRO Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Villa’s stance was he wasn’t for sale. must have been journo's speculation then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, TRO said: must have been journo's speculation then. Adonbilivit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Shall we close this thread too? You've been bored of the whole Rashica thing from the word go! Nah was all excited and tingly to start with, but as soon as it started to become evident he really doesn't want to come to Aston Villa I began to lose interest. I want players here that really want to play for this club! Edited September 29, 2020 by zab6359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, TRO said: must have been journo's speculation then. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Adonbilivit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Kiwivillan said: Who has 2 DMs? That's incredibly negative and sounds Pulisesque. Will never happen under Smith. The last good dedicated DM we had in 4141 was Whelan. It's single pivot and basically sweeper but in front of the back 4 and patrols laterally and rarely gets forward You may see it like that but you are forgetting I want it to facilate the full backs getting really high up the pitch to do over loads. Also I’m not talking about Nakamba type defensive midfielders here who can litterally only do simple passes and defend I am talking about mobile, technically skilful defensive midfielders like Luiz. Call them defensive play makers if you like. you would have 4 permanent attackers in this system 6 with the overload and it’s very defensively sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: It's about having bodies in defensive areas rather than necessarily calling a player a defensive midfielder. Liverpool play with 3 in the middle, all capable off tracking and tracking back to their box. It depends on the opposition and really it's just a tactical theory because in reality Nakamba is not really good enough to be starting PL games. Pretty much what I was saying, I tried to just make a better idea explanation in reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: 2 DM's isn't necessarily negative. The full backs play high up the pitch thus allowing the wide forwards to tuck in . This leaves one midfielder as a free roaming playmaker. The two DM's are there for cover. You in essence have a front 6. That’s exactly what I am trying to say. the team basically has 4 moving parts in the defensive midfielders and the fullbacks whilst the others stick to their positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, paul514 said: I am talking about mobile, technically skilful defensive midfielders like Luiz. Call them defensive play makers if you like. you would have 4 permanent attackers in this system 6 with the overload and it’s very defensively sound. I think we have that. Luiz is more the quarterback and McGinn is the box to box but both can cover most roles adequately in double pivot structure which still has 4 permanent attackers. AM RW CF LW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 hours ago, rayk said: I don’t think we’re going to sign a first team player that hasn’t previously played in the UK. So for me it’ll be 1 or 2 from Edoaurd, Sarr, Benrahma, Brewster, Barkley, RLC, Sessegnon, Henry. That fits with all the signings we’ve made to date. As mentioned previously, Sarr would be #1 choice, with RLC on loan to strengthen the CM. We could possibly sign Nelsson or Dahramy but they’re squad players and Lange would personally vouch for them. We’re not going to spend £25m+ on a player unproven domestically so can forget Bundesliga, Serie A, La Liga or Lihue 1 signings this window. Milot Rashica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, deeps said: To be fair on that post a couple of days ago. Terry commented "Miss you " and he responded "Take me with you captain! " So Edited September 30, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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