Adam2003 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Maybe I haven't made my point clear enough. I have no issue with options. Yes we need options, that is a good thing. It's not the point I'm making. We didn't have options after the first window, we decided that a striker like Wes was best. Because of his injury we don't have him as an option and now we've decided a striker like Samatta is best. Yes when both fit I'm sure they will at times combine and rotate but that wasn't the situation when the season started and neither is it now. No, and I don’t think anyone would claim either situation is ideal! Don’t think anyone disagrees on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I think in fairness we were going for a striker 'like this' in Maupay in the summer but we bulked at the price. For me the real failure was not trying hard enough to sign Maupay or have a contingency. To go into the season with Wesley as our only viable option was utterly ridiculous from everyone involved. Yes, although in fairness I suspect other attacking signings were expected to perform better than they have (Trez, Jota & AEG) so there’s been more pressure on the striker to perform. Recruitment in general last summer looks poor in retrospect, but if we’d had Maupay in our locker I doubt we’d be doing so badly now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, DCJonah said: In the summer we were desperate for a striker. We clearly identified Wes as the type of forward we wanted in order to succeed this season. A record signing and the man to lead the line. Now 5 months later, we are again desperate for a striker. I'd say even more desperate than in the summer. The season is on the line. Now 5 months ago the club believed a player like Wes was best for success, whereas now literally the complete opposite of Wes is seen as the way to succeed. I get we need options but neither window was about that. We signed one striker in the summer and because of his injury we have no option now. The fact we've gone for such a different striker only months after deciding Wes was the way forward, makes me question the signing in the summer. Given they both look of similar calibre - why was Wes £22m !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, hippo said: Given they both look of similar calibre - why was Wes £22m !!!! He shouldn't have been. He had no obvious pedigree and even his highlights reel had no highlights. He looked exactly on promotional videos like he has looked on the pitch. Somebody got seriously mugged off with that deal !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, hippo said: Given they both look of similar calibre - why was Wes £22m !!!! Age and potential I guess because he's nowhere near worth that at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Age and potential I guess because he's nowhere near worth that at the moment. I'd assume so, recently made the brazil squad suggests he was being monitored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 hours ago, DCJonah said: In the summer we were desperate for a striker. We clearly identified Wes as the type of forward we wanted in order to succeed this season. A record signing and the man to lead the line. Now 5 months later, we are again desperate for a striker. I'd say even more desperate than in the summer. The season is on the line. Now 5 months ago the club believed a player like Wes was best for success, whereas now literally the complete opposite of Wes is seen as the way to succeed. I get we need options but neither window was about that. We signed one striker in the summer and because of his injury we have no option now. The fact we've gone for such a different striker only months after deciding Wes was the way forward, makes me question the signing in the summer. Thanks.....all makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Probably ought to have a relegation clause in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 HELP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz90 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, hippo said: Given they both look of similar calibre - why was Wes £22m !!!! Apparently we paid more than his true value so that he would get a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Any chance he could be available for Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Just seeing how much better our shape was when Vassilev came on shows how he will really improve us vs not having a striker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 When do we need to have the formalities of this signing done to allow him to play against Watford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 58 minutes ago, Herman22 said: When do we need to have the formalities of this signing done to allow him to play against Watford? Not sure, but people were saying that it needed to be done by midday yesterday in order to play today so presumably Monday at some point. That is of course if there isn't any work permit issued as was suggested a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, gaz90 said: Apparently we paid more than his true value so that he would get a work permit. No that was Luiz. Wesley had CL games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Wonder what the delay is in this? In the summer we announced Wesley, Luiz and probably even Trez before the work permit was confirmed, then did a second announcement once the WP went through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz90 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: No that was Luiz. Wesley had CL games I thought it was the case for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, gaz90 said: Apparently we paid more than his true value so that he would get a work permit. Same with Luiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: No that was Luiz. Wesley had CL games I think a Brugge fan intimated the same on one of their boards IIRC. It was posted over here as well.. Although you might be right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, gaz90 said: Apparently we paid more than his true value so that he would get a work permit. I think that's a made up story tbh - the new guy needs a work permit and we aren't paying £22m for him !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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