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On 30/09/2021 at 18:51, Xela said:

The vast majority of Police just want to do a good job and get bad people off the streets. There will be bad eggs though, thats inevitable. Like any profession. I don't blame the NHS for Shipman killing 200 people either. 

The difference with shipman was that there was an enquiry and lessons learned to prevent something like this from happening again. That all starts from genuine contrition and acknowledgment that your own lack of process and procedures allowed the “bad egg” into the organisation and to operate under the radar for years.

So far all you hear is how it was nothing to do with the Met and the guy was just a wrong’un. They don’t want anyone looking too closely at them. They don’t want to change. They don’t want to admit any liability at all.

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It is frightening the amount of accounts I have seen on social media today from women who have been victims of crime and a male police officer obtaining the contact details, phone number/address etc, and then contacting them to ask them out and when given the knock back harassing them for weeks.

There is no doubt the Police attract a lot of people going into it for the wrong reasons with some disgusting attitudes to various sections of society.


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What a mess we are in. We need strong leadership and all we have is a bumbling idiot and a card board cut out politician.

99% of the force are OK lazy but OK,  1% aren't,  complaints against them are swept away to protect the image of the force. It allows scum like him to operate  The members of the WhatsApp group should be sacked to set an example.

We need to accept that every organisation has bad uns among the ranks and finding them is not a failure but a success. If we continue to flounder along with officers being ask to resign rather then be sacked for wrong doings then we are doomed to have a force that has no public confidence and is in affect .......shit. 

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18 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

Cressida Dick should go. There has been too many incidents now where the person at the top has to be held responsible, I mean she'll go with her golden handshake, which will probably cost us tax payers best part of half a million quid. Let someone else take charge and update the system, which is more than overdue.

I think this might be the first time you and I have agreed on anything to do with politics :)

But for what it's worth, you're absolutely right.

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An environmental activist who was deceived into a nearly two-year relationship with an undercover officer has won a landmark tribunal case against the Metropolitan Police for breaches of her human rights.

Senior police officers “encouraged or tolerated” undercover officers having sexual relationships with activists they were sent to spy on, the tribunal into the case brought by Kate Wilson heard.

Ms Wilson, 41, began a relationship with Mark Stone shortly after first meeting him in 2003 and had a "whirlwind romance" for over a year before they split amicably in 2005, when she moved to Spain.

In 2010, Ms Wilson found out he was a married police officer called Mark Kennedy, who had been sent to spy on activists as part of the Met's National Public Order Intelligence Unit (NPIOU).
Kennedy had sexual relationships with as many as 10 other women during his deployment, including one with a woman which lasted for six years before she discovered a passport in his real name.

He was one of half a dozen undercover officers from the NPIOU or its "sister unit", the Special Demonstration Squad (SDS), who Ms Wilson came into contact with between 1998 and 2010.

Ms Wilson brought legal action against the Met and the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) at the Investigatory Powers Tribunal for breaches of her right to freedom from inhuman and degrading treatment, her right to privacy and right to freedom of expression.

The Met and NPCC accepted Kennedy's actions amounted to a breach of those rights, but they denied that other officers, apart from Kennedy and his cover officer, knew or suspected Wilson was in a sexual relationship with Kennedy.

However, in a ruling on Thursday, the IPT found the Met's claims undercover officers (UCOs) knew sexual relationships were banned were "materially undermined by the sheer frequency with which [Kennedy] (and other UCOs) did conduct sexual relationships without either questions being asked or action being taken by senior officers".

"We are driven to the conclusion that either senior officers were quite extraordinarily naive, totally unquestioning or chose to turn a blind eye to conduct which was, certainly in the case of [Kennedy], useful to the operation," the tribunal added.



That they've been using these tactics against environmentalists is pretty crazy.

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It continues to conspire against Cressida.


A police officer is to face a misconduct hearing after being accused of taking two packets of Jaffa Cakes from a charity tuck shop without paying full price.

PC Chris Dwyer is accused of breaching West Yorkshire Police's professional standards in regard to integrity, honesty and discreditable conduct over the alleged incident at Halifax police station in January.

West Yorkshire Police said that another officer attended the station's canteen and emptied the charity tuck shop cash tin at around 10pm on 21 January.

The officer left six 10p coins and two 20p coins as a float.

It is then alleged that around 10.30pm, PC Dwyer went to the tuck shop, removed two packets of Jaffa Cakes which were priced at 50p each, and didn't have enough money to pay for them.


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