Police state or the state of policing

[StefanAVFC]

We are told our entire lives not to resist arrest, and now we should?

Laughable.

[Chindie]

You should resist arrest if you're a woman and think the copper arresting you plans to rape you and strangle you with his belt.

But only then.

[Mark Albrighton]

Come on guys, it’s not as if you cause a scene in front of the police they’ll do something like taser you for six times longer than is recommended and kick you in the head while you’re lying on the floor.

[desensitized43]

On 30/09/2021 at 18:51, Xela said:

The vast majority of Police just want to do a good job and get bad people off the streets. There will be bad eggs though, thats inevitable. Like any profession. I don't blame the NHS for Shipman killing 200 people either. 

The difference with shipman was that there was an enquiry and lessons learned to prevent something like this from happening again. That all starts from genuine contrition and acknowledgment that your own lack of process and procedures allowed the “bad egg” into the organisation and to operate under the radar for years.

So far all you hear is how it was nothing to do with the Met and the guy was just a wrong’un. They don’t want anyone looking too closely at them. They don’t want to change. They don’t want to admit any liability at all.

[markavfc40]

It is frightening the amount of accounts I have seen on social media today from women who have been victims of crime and a male police officer obtaining the contact details, phone number/address etc, and then contacting them to ask them out and when given the knock back harassing them for weeks.

There is no doubt the Police attract a lot of people going into it for the wrong reasons with some disgusting attitudes to various sections of society.

 

Edited October 1, 2021 by markavfc40

[maqroll]

What a farce these "helpful tips" are, lololol

[tinker]

What a mess we are in. We need strong leadership and all we have is a bumbling idiot and a card board cut out politician.

99% of the force are OK lazy but OK,  1% aren't,  complaints against them are swept away to protect the image of the force. It allows scum like him to operate  The members of the WhatsApp group should be sacked to set an example.

We need to accept that every organisation has bad uns among the ranks and finding them is not a failure but a success. If we continue to flounder along with officers being ask to resign rather then be sacked for wrong doings then we are doomed to have a force that has no public confidence and is in affect .......shit. 

[HanoiVillan]

18 hours ago, foreveryoung said:

Cressida Dick should go. There has been too many incidents now where the person at the top has to be held responsible, I mean she'll go with her golden handshake, which will probably cost us tax payers best part of half a million quid. Let someone else take charge and update the system, which is more than overdue.

I think this might be the first time you and I have agreed on anything to do with politics

But for what it's worth, you're absolutely right.

[chrisp65]

[chrisp65]

From the twitter account @countdeadwomen a list of the 80 women murdered in the 28 weeks since Sarah Everard:

• Geetika Goyal, 29, Leicester, found stabbed in the street and died of her injuries on March 4
• Imogen Bohajczuk, 29, Oldham, Greater Manchester, fatally stabbed by partner on March 4
• Wenjing Xu, 16, Treorchy, South Wales, killed by ‘pressure to the neck’ at family’s Chinese restaurant on March 5
• Karen McClean, 50, Newtownabbey, Northern Ireland, stabbed to death by her son, Ken Flanagan, on March 19
• Stacey Knell, 30, Newtownabbey, Northern Ireland, also fatally stabbed by Flanagan, who then killed himself, on March 19
• Smita Mistry (also known as Smita Saunders), 32, Leicester, found dead at home on March 23
• Samantha (Sammy) Mills, 31, Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, killed in suspected arson attack on March 23
• Patricia Audsley, 66, Mirfield, West Yorkshire, found dead at home on March 25
• Phyllis Nelson, 76, Plaistow, east London, found dead at home on March 26
• Klaudia Soltys, 30, Hull, East Yorkshire, found dead in a house on March 27
• Simone Ambler, 49, Blackpool, Lancashire, stabbed to death in house on March 29
• Emma McArthur, 49, Thatcham, Berkshire, stabbed in neck and chest and found dead on road on April 1
• Sherrie Milnes, 51, Weymouth, Dorset, found stabbed and strangled to death after apparent murder-suicide on April 1
• Constanta Bunea, 50, Plumstead, southeast London, found stabbed to death with scissors at a home on April 4
• Jacqueline Grant, 54, Glasgow, found dead at home with multiple knife wounds on April 6
• Loretta Herman, 85, Ilford, east London, strangled to death by her son Mark Herman and found at her home on April 9. 
• Egle Vengaliene, 34, Brandon, Suffolk, found dead in a lake on April 9
• Sally Metcalf, 68, Woodbridge, Suffolk, strangled by husband in apparent murder-suicide on April 10
• Sarah Keith, 26, Leeds, West Yorkshire, stabbed and strangled by partner at home on April 12
• Peggy Wright, 83, Birmingham, West Midlands, died jumping out of window after arson attack on her home on April 18
• Charmaine O’Donnell, 25, Helensburgh, Scotland, pulled from water on April 23
• Michelle Cooper, 40, Jaywick, Essex, died from head injuries on April 23
• Kerry Bradford, 57, Newport, South Wales, found stabbed to death at home on April 25
• Julia James, 53, Snowdown, Kent, found dead with serious head injuries in woodlands where she was walking her dog, on April 27
• Beth Aspey, 34, Reading, Berkshire, found dead with blunt force injuries to head at home on April 30
• Susan Booth, 62, Oldham, Greater Manchester, found dead with severe head injuries outside a house on May 2
• Maya Zulfiqar, 26, Lahore, Pakistan, strangled and shot after allegedly refusing to marry two love rivals on May 3
• Maria Rawlings, 45, Romford, Essex, found dead in bushes after walking home from hospital on May 4
• Chenise Gregory, 29, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, killed by boyfriend in hotel in apparent murder-suicide on May 4
• Agnes Akom, 20, last seen in Cricklewood, north London, on May 9 – her body has not been found
• Wendy Cole, 70, St Ives, Cambridgeshire, stabbed to death at her home on May 10
• Caroline Crouch, 20, strangled and tortured by husband at their home in Athens, Greece on May 11
• Svetlana Mihalachi, 53, Ilford, east London, attacked at house and died in hospital five weeks later on May 12
• Nicola Kirk, 45, Dumfries, Scotland, hit by car in alleged attack and died in hospital on May 12
• Unnamed 32-year-old woman, Ilford, east London, found dead at home on May 13
• Agita Geslere, 61, Barnsley, South Yorkshire, stabbed at a house and died in hospital on May 25
• Lauren Wilson, 34, Renfrew, Scotland, found stabbed to death on May 26
• Peninah Kabeba, 42, Cheam, south London, found dead at home with multiple stab wounds on May 27
• Jill Hickery, 82, Mullion, Cornwall, stabbed to death and found at a house on May 29
• Bethany Vincent, 26, Louth, Lincolnshire, stabbed to death along with her nine-year-old son, Darren, on May 31
• Esther Brown, 67, Glasgow, found dead at her flat on June 1
• Michaela Hall, 49, Truro, Cornwall, found dead at a house on June 1
• Mildred Whitmore, 84, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, found dead at her home on June 1
• Stacey Clay, 39, Nottingham, found seriously injured in her garden and died in hospital on June 2
• Linda Hood, 68, Gorleston, Norfolk, found dead in burning home by firefighters having been strangled to death on June 11
• Marlene Coleman, 53, Lewisham, south London, found unresponsive by medics at house and declared dead at the scene on June 16
• Sophie Cartlidge, 39, Scunthorpe, North Lincolnshire, found dead at a home with ‘significant injuries’ on June 18
• Gracie Spinks, 23, Duckmanton, Derbyshire, slashed in throat by alleged stalker while tending to her horse on June 18
• Kim Dearden, 63, Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, stabbed to death at house on June 19
• Michelle Hibbert, 29, Basingstoke, Hampshire, found dead alongside her husband on June 19
• Sally Poynton, 44, Crowlas, Cornwall, found stabbed to death at a house on June 22
• Catherine Wardleworth, in her 70s, Southport, Merseyside, shot dead by husband in apparent murder-suicide on June 23
• Sukhjit Badial, 73, Coventry, Warwickshire, found dead alongside husband in apparent murder-suicide on June 29
• Elsie Pinder, 66, Southend, Essex, killed in suspected arson attack on July 3
• Catherine Stewart, 54, Airdrie, Scotland, found dead at her home on July 4
• Ishrat Ahmed, 52, Nelson, Lancashire, beaten to death at her home on July 4
• Tamara Padi, 45, Stalybridge, Greater Manchester, found stabbed to death in her home on July 7
• Katie (Kathleen) Brankin, 37, Limavady, Northern Ireland, stabbed to death in glamping site on July 12
• Sandra Hughes, 63, Gorton, Manchester, killed in house fire on July 13
• Beatrice Stoica, 36, East Dulwich, east London, stabbed to death on July 23
• Pat (Patricia) Holland, 83, Gorleston-on-Sea, Norfolk, allegedly killed by her lodger and found dead on July 24
• Louise Kam, 71, last seen in Barnet, north London, on July 26
• Yordanos Brhane, 19, Birmingham, found with multiple stab wounds in a house
• Amanda Selby, 15, Towyn, North Wales, found stabbed to death in holiday park on July 31
• Malgorzata Lechanska, 37, Shipdham, Norfolk, found dead with a severe head injury on August 1
• Megan Newborough, 23, Woodhouse Eaves, Leicestershire, found dead on country lane on August 7
• Diane Nichols, 57, Hawick, Scotland, found dead in flat on August 9
• Maxine Davison, 51, Plymouth, Devon, shot dead by her own son, Jake Davison, on August 12
• Kate Shepherd, 66, Plymouth, Devon, also shot dead by Jake Davison on August 12
• Bella Nicandro, 76, Notting Hill, west London, stabbed to death at her home on August 14
• Eileen Barrott, 50, Leeds, West Yorkshire, found seriously injured at home and died at the scene on August 15
• Sharron Pickles, 45, Westminster, central London, found dead with slashed throat on August 19
• Helen Anderson, 41, Guildford, Surrey, found dead in undergrowth beside a slip road on August 23
• Jade Ward, 27, Shotton, North Wales, found dead in house on August 26
• Maddie Durdant-Hollamby, 22, Kettering, Northamptonshire, found stabbed to death by her partner in apparent murder-suicide on August 27
• Fawziyah Javed, 31, Edinburgh, Scotland, ‘fell’ to her death from Arthur’s Seat on September 2
• Ingrid Matthew, 54, Leicester, East Midlands, found dead at a house on September 11
• Sabina Nessa, 28, Kidbrooke, southeast London, killed on a short walk to the pub on September 17
• Terri Harris, 35, Killamarsh, Derbyshire, found dead at a house alongside her two children and another child at a house on September 19
• Sukhjeet Uppal, 40, Wolverhampton, West Midlands, stabbed to death at her home on September 19

[maqroll]

So police are saying its advisable to run away from them now? LOL

[Davkaus]

2 minutes ago, maqroll said:

So police are saying its advisable to run away from them now? LOL

Get as far as you can before the taser digs in.

[maqroll]

I wonder if there's a correlation between violent misogyny and authoritarianism.

[bickster]

A Met Police officer will appear in court on Monday charged with rape

[Xann]

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An environmental activist who was deceived into a nearly two-year relationship with an undercover officer has won a landmark tribunal case against the Metropolitan Police for breaches of her human rights.

Senior police officers “encouraged or tolerated” undercover officers having sexual relationships with activists they were sent to spy on, the tribunal into the case brought by Kate Wilson heard.

Ms Wilson, 41, began a relationship with Mark Stone shortly after first meeting him in 2003 and had a "whirlwind romance" for over a year before they split amicably in 2005, when she moved to Spain.

In 2010, Ms Wilson found out he was a married police officer called Mark Kennedy, who had been sent to spy on activists as part of the Met's National Public Order Intelligence Unit (NPIOU).

Kennedy had sexual relationships with as many as 10 other women during his deployment, including one with a woman which lasted for six years before she discovered a passport in his real name.

He was one of half a dozen undercover officers from the NPIOU or its "sister unit", the Special Demonstration Squad (SDS), who Ms Wilson came into contact with between 1998 and 2010.

Ms Wilson brought legal action against the Met and the National Police Chiefs Council (NPCC) at the Investigatory Powers Tribunal for breaches of her right to freedom from inhuman and degrading treatment, her right to privacy and right to freedom of expression.

The Met and NPCC accepted Kennedy's actions amounted to a breach of those rights, but they denied that other officers, apart from Kennedy and his cover officer, knew or suspected Wilson was in a sexual relationship with Kennedy.

However, in a ruling on Thursday, the IPT found the Met's claims undercover officers (UCOs) knew sexual relationships were banned were "materially undermined by the sheer frequency with which [Kennedy] (and other UCOs) did conduct sexual relationships without either questions being asked or action being taken by senior officers".

"We are driven to the conclusion that either senior officers were quite extraordinarily naive, totally unquestioning or chose to turn a blind eye to conduct which was, certainly in the case of [Kennedy], useful to the operation," the tribunal added.

 

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That they've been using these tactics against environmentalists is pretty crazy.

[Mark Albrighton]

It continues to conspire against Cressida.

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A police officer is to face a misconduct hearing after being accused of taking two packets of Jaffa Cakes from a charity tuck shop without paying full price.

PC Chris Dwyer is accused of breaching West Yorkshire Police's professional standards in regard to integrity, honesty and discreditable conduct over the alleged incident at Halifax police station in January.

West Yorkshire Police said that another officer attended the station's canteen and emptied the charity tuck shop cash tin at around 10pm on 21 January.

The officer left six 10p coins and two 20p coins as a float.

It is then alleged that around 10.30pm, PC Dwyer went to the tuck shop, removed two packets of Jaffa Cakes which were priced at 50p each, and didn't have enough money to pay for them.

Link

[bickster]

2 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said:

It continues to conspire against Cressida.

Nowt to do with her, she's the Met not West Yorkshire

[Mark Albrighton]

19 minutes ago, bickster said:

Nowt to do with her, she's the Met not West Yorkshire

True.

So the gag was inaccurate as well as weak. 

Sorted.
 

[chrisp65]

 

 

[Mark Albrighton]

Phillip “Streetwise” Allott resigns as North Yorkshire Police Commissioner.