Ratings & Reactions: Villa v West Ham

[theboyangel]

Dull game that lacked any excitement or prolonged passages of good play. 

marvellous had a good full debut though and thought Gilbert is progressing nicely too. 

When we were last in the top flight, we'd have lost that game. 

A point is a point and against a fairly decent team too. 

 

[AVTuco]

3 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Wow, so much negativity and over reaction. FFS people, we are a work in progress and we gave West Ham a bloody good test, Heaton was not troubled all evening. 

Yes we have work to do, and we lost the plot a bit after the sending off, we misplaced a lot of passes but these players have played 5 league games together and more than held their own against an established top half team. We had by far the better chances and on another day could have won that by a couple of goals.

It saddens me to see our fans tearing into our own players after a game. FFS get behind the team. This is a season of transition and we have a lot of work to do, but anyone would think we had just lost to Accrington Stanley.

We are looking like transiting back to the Championship if anything.

[VillanousOne]

1 minute ago, AVTuco said:

How on earth have we managed to get our hands on two strikers that can't score? Will we score 20 goals this season? I don't think so.

A good result, but three points were up for grabs.

who is the second striker? We only signed one!

[thunderball]

2 minutes ago, LondonVillian said:

grealish and wes were hopeless today. 

Absolute nonsense.

Totally reactionary comment. 

Another clean sheet, but need to create more. We are competitive, but yet to find our final third game. Need some more options up front in Jan. 

Nakamba looked useful once he warmed up.

A point, keep on grinding it Villa, it will come

 

[Delphinho123]

Who’d have thought we’d need another winger and striker in the summer. 

[osmark86]

4 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Wow, so much negativity and over reaction. FFS people, we are a work in progress and we gave West Ham a bloody good test, Heaton was not troubled all evening. 

Yes we have work to do, and we lost the plot a bit after the sending off, we misplaced a lot of passes but these players have played 5 league games together and more than held their own against an established top half team. We had by far the better chances and on another day could have won that by a couple of goals.

It saddens me to see our fans tearing into our own players after a game. FFS get behind the team. This is a season of transition and we have a lot of work to do, but anyone would think we had just lost to Accrington Stanley.

This. Not the greatest performance but we should chillax a little.

[tomav84]

4 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Wow, so much negativity and over reaction. FFS people, we are a work in progress and we gave West Ham a bloody good test, Heaton was not troubled all evening. 

Yes we have work to do, and we lost the plot a bit after the sending off, we misplaced a lot of passes but these players have played 5 league games together and more than held their own against an established top half team. We had by far the better chances and on another day could have won that by a couple of goals.

It saddens me to see our fans tearing into our own players after a game. FFS get behind the team. This is a season of transition and we have a lot of work to do, but anyone would think we had just lost to Accrington Stanley.

If we treat this as a season of transition we're going down. Chelsea are having a season in transition...we need performances and results

Defensively I agree we're solid but we're toothless going forward

[Vancvillan]

I thought we looked like a new side that lacked cohesion and understanding, but that will come.

I wish we'd get to the byline more often.

Aside from that, reasonable performance and about what I'd expect in this first season.

[Jimzk5]

Don't see where the the goals we need to score to stay up are coming from, grealish is playing so deep Wesley is in a different postcode to him 

[VillanousOne]

Positives, I thought Nakamba gave our midfield some much needed balance.

I thought McGinn did ok also and our defence was solid. But the rest of the team was poor.

Grealish saw more of the ball than he has in any game, just a shame he couldn't do anything of note with it.

Edited September 16, 2019 by VillanousOne

[lexicon]

Defence and midfield were good today, best we've been more or less. It's the attack that was poor and that needs work on. We need to score goals and all three are new to the league and looking like it. 

[romavillan]

1 minute ago, tomav84 said:

If we treat this as a season of transition we're going down. Chelsea are having a season in transition...we need performances and results

Defensively I agree we're solid but we're toothless going forward

If a summer where you shed 15+ players and have to replace them whilst stepping up a league in quality is not a transition, then someone should explain to me what one is. It would be hard to imagine more upheaval and change than we were forced into by the dicktards that were running the club previously, transition is change, we are probably the most changed squad in the league. Managing that change and picking up points is a tough ask, we're doing ok.

[Lerner's Driver]

5 minutes ago, TheStagMan said:

Wow, so much negativity and over reaction. FFS people, we are a work in progress and we gave West Ham a bloody good test, Heaton was not troubled all evening. 

Yes we have work to do, and we lost the plot a bit after the sending off, we misplaced a lot of passes but these players have played 5 league games together and more than held their own against an established top half team. We had by far the better chances and on another day could have won that by a couple of goals.

It saddens me to see our fans tearing into our own players after a game. FFS get behind the team. This is a season of transition and we have a lot of work to do, but anyone would think we had just lost to Accrington Stanley.

Agreed, we are a team in transition and that we shouldn't write them off yet, but I don't think anyone is. The praise for our fight is merited, but so is the criticism of our lack of quality.

In fact, fight is just the minimum requirement...it won't be enough to keep us up, if we don't improve. Reckon we will? If so, why?

[foreveryoung]

Why did we not just keep possession in the last 15 minutes. They were running all over the place. Nieve tactics not to bring on Davis earlier.  He will never score in the last 5.

[MNVillan]

I thought our passing was shockingly bad today. Poor decisions and wrong weight far too often. Makes it too hard to break down defenses and create quality opportunities.

It’s hard for me to call Wesley shite, I think he suffers from a lack of creativity from many of our other players. He links up well with Jota, but Jota either doesn’t want to run or can’t. Overall our attack is very concerning. If we can’t start creating more for Wesley and capitalizing on our (few) opportunities we are in big trouble. 

Overall it’s a point, which gets us out of the bottom 3, but this one felt like a loss. We were thoroughly outworked after the red card, and there is simply no excuse for that. Every post match thread I say I’m not concerned yet (and I’m still not), but we need to start seeing results soon.

[TheStagMan]

5 minutes ago, AVTuco said:

We are looking like transiting back to the Championship if anything.

We're not transiting back to the Championship.

 

4 minutes ago, tomav84 said:

If we treat this as a season of transition we're going down. Chelsea are having a season in transition...we need performances and results

Defensively I agree we're solid but we're toothless going forward

Seriously, you are comparing Chelsea's challenges this season to ours? Behave.

[romavillan]

3 minutes ago, VillanousOne said:

Positives, I thought Nakamba gave our midfield some much needed balance.

I thought McGinn did ok also and our defence was solid. But the rest of the team was poor.

Grealish saw more of the ball than he has in any game, just a shame he couldn't do anything of note with it.

Agree apart from the Grealish comment, he made the best chance in the first half and made the run to miss out on the best chance of the second. He carried the ball for us really well at times as did McGinn. He made unforced errors, but so did everyone apart from Heaton. Even Engels gave Guilbert a proper hospital ball first half.

[AVTuco]

8 minutes ago, VillanousOne said:

who is the second striker? We only signed one!

Meant Davis.

[thunderball]

My only criticism is we looked poor down the LHS. Taylor was limited and EAG looked limited too. We just need more options in attack.

Just to nail my colours to,the mast, Jack, McG did well, they are our engine. Wes did well but was starved, the set up isn’t working it’s not Wes.

[Thug]

Grealish was everywhere and put in a LOT of effort.  Passing was uncharacteristically poor from him

I think southgate being at the stadium didnt help.

Wesley was very poor.