villalad21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Fernandinho is really getting old and i think they see Luiz as the perfect replacement. I think this deal is inevitable. Hoping to be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted December 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Fernandinho is really getting old and i think they see Luiz as the perfect replacement. I think this deal is inevitable. Hoping to be wrong though He was born the day before me... the old bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 13/12/2020 at 06:05, Spoony said: The thought of no Douglas Luiz and no Barkley makes me feel sick. We are already so short in midfield. If it’s Nakamba and Hourihane in the middle then we need them we need some strong thoughts and prayers to get us through this. Just gotta hope we get Super John McGinn and not Smashed John McGnn If there’s one team that I could choose where Luiz and Barkley can’t play, then it’s Burnley. Keep McNeil marked tightly and stop him getting the ball and you remove almost all the open play threat that Burnley have. They have Ashley Westwood in their CM ffs! I’d like to see us go 3 at the back and fill the CM area to win and retain the ball for the majority of the game. Burnley will be looking to sit deep, not concede. They’re happy with 1pt and a 0-0 right now. If we bring Grealish central then Burnley will double or treble up on him leaving space down the sides for us to exploit. I hope we’ve been practicing hitting crosses in from wide positions at ground level, because that’s where Burnley’s meat heads will struggle, facing their own goal with the ball on the floor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: He was born the day before me... the old bastard! Yes. You're an old bastard.. In football terms. I am as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted December 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Yes. You're an old bastard.. In football terms. I am as well Unfortunately we are I’m starting think perhaps I won’t get that England call up next summer... Back to real football. I think they signed Rodri as a sort of replacement for Fernandinho. Edited December 16, 2020 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2nd most important player in the squad. Throw all we got to keep him. Wes not messing about - he’s gone big with Giannis in the NBA, he’s ambitious and won’t wanna see our best players leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 How long is he out for? I'm not sure of the rules. He's got enough yellows for a one game ban, but he also got sent off. Also if Ross is ok play him, we've got Chelsea in a couple of weeks, he'll miss that. Also wouldn't want 3 of the best 11 missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, colhint said: How long is he out for? I'm not sure of the rules. He's got enough yellows for a one game ban, but he also got sent off. Also if Ross is ok play him, we've got Chelsea in a couple of weeks, he'll miss that. Also wouldn't want 3 of the best 11 missing. Should be one game as it was a second yellow. Straight red usually brings 3 games depending on the seriousness of the offence. Edit: found it on the premier League website. Quote Gameweek 13 suspensions Player Club Position Possible return Hector Bellerin ARS DEF GW14 Granit Xhaka ARS MID GW15 Matthew Cash AVL DEF GW14 Douglas Luiz AVL MID GW14 Jonny Evans LEI DEF GW14 https://www.premierleague.com/news/1938772 Edited December 16, 2020 by Sulberto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Should be one game as it was a second yellow. Straight red usually brings 3 games depending on the seriousness of the offence. But that's irrelevant... he has now got 5 yellow cards. The question remains, does his second yellow in that game not count towards his accumulated yellow card total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 16, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, MrBlack said: But that's irrelevant... he has now got 5 yellow cards. The question remains, does his second yellow in that game not count towards his accumulated yellow card total? It’s not irrelevant. He has to serve a one match ban it says. If it was one for the dismissal and another for 5 yellow cards it would be a 2 match ban, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, villalad21 said: Fernandinho is really getting old and i think they see Luiz as the perfect replacement. I think this deal is inevitable. Hoping to be wrong though People keep saying this, but how do we know they don't already have the next Fernandinho lined up? City's status and ambitions are greater than ours currently, the players we perceive as world beaters , they probably do not. There is a wide world of top football players. Edited December 16, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, blandy said: It’s not irrelevant. He has to serve a one match ban it says. If it was one for the dismissal and another for 5 yellow cards it would be a 2 match ban, surely. If someone we can trust has confirmed a 1 game ban that is relevant, but what sulberto said about straight red wasnt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 16, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, MrBlack said: what sulberto said about straight red wasnt. Agreed - a 3 game ban for violent conduct is not part of the how long is he banned for? convo' - that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Should be one game as it was a second yellow. Straight red usually brings 3 games depending on the seriousness of the offence. Edit: found it on the premier League website. https://www.premierleague.com/news/1938772 Thanks, think that's as good as confirmation as we can get. but it means the system is broken...as he's not on 4 bookings for the season (not listed as 1 card away from a ban) and he can't be on 5 as he's not getting a ban for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: People keep saying this, but how do we know they don't already have the next Fernandinho lined up? City's status and ambitions are greater than ours currently, the players we perceive as world beaters , they probably do not. There is a wide world of top football players. Pep rates him highly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Pep rates him highly he rates Nathan Ake too?.....and John Stones. Edited December 16, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, TRO said: he rates Nathan Ake too?.....and John Stones. You don't rate them 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: You don't rate them 2? I think Mings is better and at around half the price. He's ok, but not Man city standard imo....he's no Kompany. I wouldn't be happy if villa had bought him. Edited December 16, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, TRO said: I think Mings is better and at half the price. He's ok, but not Man city standard imo....he's no Kompany. I think Ake is miles better than Mings but i respect your opinion. Stones i don't particularly rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted December 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: Thanks, think that's as good as confirmation as we can get. but it means the system is broken...as he's not on 4 bookings for the season (not listed as 1 card away from a ban) and he can't be on 5 as he's not getting a ban for it. TransferMarkt and WhoScored both have him down for 2 yellow cards before the Wolves game, against Liverpool and Leicester. The question remains about the accumulative count though, and I was looking for the answer myself a few days ago to no avail. There are even 3 options; that neither of the 2 yellows in one match count because the ban is being served for them, that only the first one does, or that both do. Guess we'll have to wait to find out (or hopefully not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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