blandy Posted November 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2022 6 hours ago, bickster said: as she, the individual, is recognised to be the most abused UK politician by an enormous margin any analysis trying to show a male/female split has to take her figures out because they are such an outlier. Hmm. I won't count abuse of this woman as abuse of women, because she's abused loads. Don't follow the logic. She's a woman. She's abused. She should be counted as an abused woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, blandy said: Hmm. I won't count abuse of this woman as abuse of women, because she's abused loads. Don't follow the logic. She's a woman. She's abused. She should be counted as an abused woman. An example 1000 abuses 900 are Dianne Abbott 50 are assorted male MPs 50 are assorted female MPs Remove Abbott and there isn’t a sexist angle to it She’s such an outlier that including her will skew any results because she is abused more than any other MP by a massive factor. You can’t analyse a trend in data with such a massive outlier in the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, bickster said: An example 1000 abuses 900 are Dianne Abbott 50 are assorted male MPs 50 are assorted female MPs Remove Abbott and there isn’t a sexist angle to it She’s such an outlier that including her will skew any results because she is abused more than any other MP by a massive factor. You can’t analyse a trend in data with such a massive outlier in the data. Absolutely this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, bickster said: An example 1000 abuses 900 are Dianne Abbott 50 are assorted male MPs 50 are assorted female MPs Remove Abbott and there isn’t a sexist angle to it She’s such an outlier that including her will skew any results because she is abused more than any other MP by a massive factor. You can’t analyse a trend in data with such a massive outlier in the data. It’s the same thing as median and mean show different things. Either way skews the data. From your example, the women get 950 abusive messages and the men get 50. If we say 300 Women MPs and 300 men MPs, then the women’s mean figure is about 3 each, and the men 0.16 each. I don’t agree that excluding the most abused woman from the data presents a clearer picture than including her. I guess we agree to differ. Though I accept that nearly all MPs, but particularly Abbott, get undeserved abuse, threats and all the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63877501 Sad face photo at the top, accompanied by the headline 'Train strikes mean I won't see my son over Christmas'. That's a quote, of course. But then it starts with a statement of some simple "facts". Quote Owen will no longer be able to see his son over the festive period due to the Christmas rail worker strikes. The 34-year-old from Doncaster was planning to travel to see his 12-year-old boy who lives with his mother in Derby on 27 December, but will not make it because of the walkouts. He is one of the thousands of people whose festive plans have been hit by the industrial action, which is a result of the row over pay and conditions coming to a head. Of course, buried down in the article, they do state an actual fact. Quote A section of rail workers who are employed by Network Rail, will also down tools from 18:00 GMT on 24 December until 27 December. For the avoidance of doubt, train services resume at 6am on the 27th. Idiots, or liars deliberately spreading emotionally charged propaganda? I know what I think 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 8, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63877501 Sad face photo at the top, accompanied by the headline 'Train strikes mean I won't see my son over Christmas'. That's a quote, of course. But then it starts with a statement of some simple "facts". Of course, buried down in the article, they do state an actual fact. For the avoidance of doubt, train services resume at 6am on the 27th. Idiots, or liars deliberately spreading emotionally charged propaganda? I know what I think They appear to have removed the section with Mr Compo Beardface from the article now they've found some people that will be genuinely inconvenienced, no wait that bit still isn't true. The first person now is a student who is going home a week early from Uni because she was due to leave on the 16th, the Theology and Religion Student (yep there's the whole bag on nothing course) is now going to miss a whole week of Uni rather than go home on the 15th... It's not good for her degree! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, bickster said: They appear to have removed the section with Mr Compo Beardface from the article now they've found some people that will be genuinely inconvenienced, no wait that bit still isn't true. The first person now is a student who is going home a week early from Uni because she was due to leave on the 16th, the Theology and Religion Student (yep there's the whole bag on nothing course) is now going to miss a whole week of Uni rather than go home on the 15th... It's not good for her degree! Disclaimer at the bottom Quote This story has been updated to remove a case study whose travel plans are unlikely to be affected by the strikes. Absolute shambles of a "journalist" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2022 The BBC on the strikes gave basically dropped the mask of being in any way independent. It's literally government propaganda content against the rail workers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 The BBC once run by giants, now sadly run by pygmies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted January 12, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2023 Another belter this morning from the absolutely not race-baiting BBC. Organ transplants: Black people wait up to six months longer, NHS figures show ZOMG how horrible, that's outrageous, how unfair etc... Actual article contents : Quote The best match comes from someone of the same ethnicity - but only 2% of donors in 2021/22 were black, while black people are 4% of the population. Black families are also less likely to agree to organ donation than white families, the figures show. Right, so nothing to do with what your headline was clearly steering readers towards. I guess their website banner is a red top, so ... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 Its become a government mouthpiece with the thinnest veneer of being reliable and respectable. Meaning the Tories have pretty much succeeded. Undermine everything about it, to get rid of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Yesterday the story about Sunak was weird. They seemed to go back and forth between the headlines of ”Sunak confirms he has used private healthcare” and Sunak is registered with an NHS GP. Every hour or so they’d swap between the 2 headlines on the homepage for the same story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 "Sunak confirms that he calls before 8.30am for an appointment" "Dishi Rishi announces to the room he is now 13th in the queue" "Sunak is keen to address the accusation that he has never nipped out on his lunch break to get a cream for his eczema". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 On 24/10/2022 at 16:27, hogso said: I posted not too long ago in the Rubbish claims to fame thread that Martine Croxall, a BBC news reader, is my second cousin once removed. Skim read that and it looks like you're calling your cousin a word removed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 12, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 This also reminds me that the BBC spent over a year fighting complaints against a pretty grim article they wrote which suggested transwomen were an inherent danger to lesbians, which included an interview with a lesbian porn star who was accused of sexual assault in toilets, claimed to have received no input from transwomen for balance when one stated they'd been interviewed and their comments just ignored, and was inspired by a survey by a lesbian group that actively is against transpeople. Amongst other issues. The Beeb as a news source is tainted. All part of the plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2023 Quote December 27 2022: 'I'll never retire': BBC Radio 2 legend Ken Bruce on why he'll never leave show Ken, 71, is BBC Radio 2's longest-serving male broadcaster. Radio 2 legend Ken Bruce says he'll never leave his mid-morning show unless he's fired - but would then do the shipping forecast just to stay on air. But Ken, who at 71, is the station's longest-serving male broadcaster, insists he doesn't fear the axe and would keep going even if it happened. The broadcaster said: "I would never retire voluntarily, but you never know, I might be retired". Express Quote January 17 2023: BBC Radio 2's Ken Bruce has announced on air that he is leaving the station after 31 years hosting its weekday mid-morning show. His slot is the most listened-to show on British radio, and he will now join rival station Greatest Hits Radio. "I have decided the time is right for me to move on from Radio 2," he said, adding he'd had "a tremendously happy time" but it was "time for a change". His departure comes after Steve Wright left after 23 years as afternoon host. Bruce told listeners: "I'll reach the end of my current contract in March, and so at that point I will be moving on from Radio 2. Nothing stays the same forever... "I have been here for quite a long time now, and it possibly is time to move over and let somebody else have a go". The 71-year-old said: "I really must stress that this is entirely my decision". BBC Aged well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 An interesting point I read earlier, the King's coronation is May 6th in London, Eurovision 2023 is May 13th in Liverpool. Meaning the poor logistics people at the BBC have got to plan two of the most complicated outside broadcasts they've had to do in decades, each attracting (probably) hundreds of millions of viewers, within a few days of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 2, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, ml1dch said: An interesting point I read earlier, the King's coronation is May 6th in London, Eurovision 2023 is May 13th in Liverpool. Meaning the poor logistics people at the BBC have got to plan two of the most complicated outside broadcasts they've had to do in decades, each attracting (probably) hundreds of millions of viewers, within a few days of each other. They can use the Kingy shit to test the equipment for the real event the following week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Gary Linekers tweet, giving his opinion on the illegal immigration bill, was the number one story on the 10 o'clock news tonight. I mean really. It saddens me what the BBC has become. Another to add to the long list of things that have been broken under the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Gary Linekers tweet, giving his opinion on the illegal immigration bill, was the number one story on the 10 o'clock news tonight. I mean really. It saddens me what the BBC has become. Another to add to the long list of things that have been broken under the Tories. Hopefully Richard Sharp, the Chairman of the BBC will make sure the boy Lineker stays impartial. Richard Sharp worked for Boris Johnson when he was London Mayor, he worked for Rishi Sunak when he was Chancellor. Richard Sharp donated £400,000 to the Conservative party. It’s important that sports personalities aren’t seen to be partial. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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