TRO Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 10 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He probably was put up for sale. No club are going to pay his wages. then it seems our judgment of players needs a tweak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I don't blame him to stand his ground and get his full wages , but to be removed from the website is very disrespectful even if his not up to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post penguin Posted September 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2022 (According to WhoScored, for players with more than 5 appearances) Statistically the 3rd best RB in Ligue 1 in 20/21 and the 4th best RB in 21/22 I think it's disingenuous to suggest the confusion regarding his situation and wanting him to be given a chance is "Salifou syndrome" he is clearly a good player and there is data to back this up. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 In these situations I often think, what does Gerrard stand to win in this situation. If Guilbert is as good and professional as people on here make him out to be, then what does Gerrard stand to win by isolating him? Not fan a of Gerrard, dont rate him, but he and everyone around him are not complete idiots 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Chicken Field said: In these situations I often think, what does Gerrard stand to win in this situation. If Guilbert is as good and professional as people on here make him out to be, then what does Gerrard stand to win by isolating him? Not fan a of Gerrard, dont rate him, but he and everyone around him are not complete idiots I agree to a large extent with this, but I find myself disagreeing with some of his decisions, and this is one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: I agree to a large extent with this, but I find myself disagreeing with some of his decisions, and this is one of them. We’re not always privy to what goes on behind the scenes. If there’s disruption or disrespect then I’m behind Gerrard. if this is just nasty games to try to force a player to leave, then that’s a despicable practice that needs to be stopped at all clubs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 hours ago, penguin said: (According to WhoScored, for players with more than 5 appearances) Statistically the 3rd best RB in Ligue 1 in 20/21 and the 4th best RB in 21/22 I think it's disingenuous to suggest the confusion regarding his situation and wanting him to be given a chance is "Salifou syndrome" he is clearly a good player and there is data to back this up. And yet no French team have wanted him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 hours ago, penguin said: (According to WhoScored, for players with more than 5 appearances) Statistically the 3rd best RB in Ligue 1 in 20/21 and the 4th best RB in 21/22 I think it's disingenuous to suggest the confusion regarding his situation and wanting him to be given a chance is "Salifou syndrome" he is clearly a good player and there is data to back this up. In that case why aren’t clubs beating our door down for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Most Ligue 1 clubs can't afford £40k/w for a RB 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, jim said: In that case why aren’t clubs beating our door down for him? Wages? Illuminati? What are you alluding to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: And yet no French team have wanted him I think it's much more likely Guilbert didn't want to give up Premier League wages but this is all just conjecture. We'll see when he's a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 We give the players contracts, decide almost whimsically to exclude them completely from the playing squad and still expect them to give up the wages that both parties agreed to? He's not going to kick a ball until January and we're still paying him so I don't get why the club doesn't just subsidize all or part of the wages for a loan abroad? Seems like clubs across the board don't really do that anymore. Only recent example I can think of are extortionate ones like Coutinho to us or Bale to Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: We give the players contracts, decide almost whimsically to exclude them completely from the playing squad and still expect them to give up the wages that both parties agreed to? He's not going to kick a ball until January and we're still paying him so I don't get why the club doesn't just subsidize all or part of the wages for a loan abroad? Seems like clubs across the board don't really do that anymore. Only recent example I can think of are extortionate ones like Coutinho to us or Bale to Spurs. I’m guessing we must have done this the previous two seasons. I have a feeling we will hear news of him becoming a free agent in the coming days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 5 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: And yet no French team have wanted him French clubs have no money except PSG who spent about 80 million on a right back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I’m guessing we must have done this the previous two seasons. I have a feeling we will hear news of him becoming a free agent in the coming days . Which is what the club is forcing him to do I think. It's quite shit honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Chicken Field said: In these situations I often think, what does Gerrard stand to win in this situation. If Guilbert is as good and professional as people on here make him out to be, then what does Gerrard stand to win by isolating him? Not fan a of Gerrard, dont rate him, but he and everyone around him are not complete idiots You can't say it's not common pattern through or isolated incident look at Sanson ,Traore and the Mings situation ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ozvilla28 said: You can't say it's not common pattern through or isolated incident look at Sanson ,Traore and the Mings situation Wasnt mings just dropped for one game (where they even explained that he had a knock?) Traore got a few opportunities and did nothing With sanson and guilbert i suspect the situation is as simple as they arent good enough, been asked to find new clubs and told they wont feature but havent left because of their wages Edited September 12, 2022 by Chicken Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 11/09/2022 at 13:44, Stevo985 said: Said it in a different thread, but it’s Salifou Syndrome. Same is happening with Sanson. The longer they don’t play the better they become in fans’ minds. Guilbert wasn’t good enough. If he’s being treated badly then that’s a shame, but it doesn’t suddenly mean Ed good enough to be playing Agree re Guilbert but completely disagree re Sanson. But anyway, even if Guilbert isn't good enough to be starting, it's strange how he's being treated. Btw, not everyone who doesn't play isn't good enough, ya know. Managers make mistakes. And Steven has made a shed load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chicken Field said: Wasnt mings just dropped for one game (where they even explained that he had a knock?) Traore got a few opportunities and did nothing With sanson and guilbert i suspect the situation is as simple as they arent good enough, been asked to find new clubs and told they wont feature but havent left because of their wages Traore barely got any opportunities. He'd already shown exactly what he can do in the season before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 So looks like Preece (I believe) was wrong. Included in the 25 man squad according to the PL release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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