TrentVilla Posted January 1, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Indigo said: Mate there are certain posters here who over the course of the season have rushed to this thread within a minute of Mings making an error to call him a "donkey", "muppet", "moron" and presumably other insults beyond mere tactical analysis that I'm not remembering off the top of my head. Just because the majority here are capable of constructive and respectful conversation doesn't mean others aren't and that it doesn’t warrant being acknowledged as poor form. I’m sure there are, just as I’m sure there are posters who are never ever critical of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 1, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Farlz said: He's better than Hause and overall had a fine game. I agree he is a better player than Hause, I don’t think he is playing better currently though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I don't really see how that goals all his fault. Tries to header it away and it unfortunately goes straight of martial, other than that he did nothing wrong. I still think konsa is the better of the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 He made a mistake for their goal but he had a very good game other that. I like Hause but against team who don't pose a massive threat I'd prefer Mings over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I'd have our defenders over Ures every day of the week. Konsa is getting better and better imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 1, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: I don't really see how that goals all his fault. Tries to header it away and it unfortunately goes straight of martial, other than that he did nothing wrong. I still think konsa is the better of the two Because his positioning is totally wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: It’s embarrassing to comment on a players errors or perceived errors? No but it is embarrassing to say things like Hause would never make that mistake. We should have stuck with Hause. Nonsense. Mings is a great player who is central to our turnaround as a club. Let’s get behind him not have a go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted January 1, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2021 Luiz cost us the game, not Mings. Our defense is all Mings, and silent partner Konsa strolls around trying to stay as far away from the heat as possible, making a couple tackles and passing the ball to Mings. Hause is nowhere near Mings' level, not in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, DCJonah said: He deserved criticism against palace but people jump on him constantly. mainly the opposition who win the ball ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 1, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, M_Afro said: No but it is embarrassing to say things like Hause would never make that mistake. We should have stuck with Hause. Nonsense. Mings is a great player who is central to our turnaround as a club. Let’s get behind him not have a go. That’s not embarrassing, rightly or wrongly it’s people’s opinion and is no less valid than your own. Yes he was central to our turnaround but it doesn’t mean he should be above criticism as some seem to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, TrentVilla said: That’s not embarrassing, rightly or wrongly it’s people’s opinion and is no less valid than your own. Yes he was central to our turnaround but it doesn’t mean he should be above criticism as some seem to think. Ok mate. I disagree. You’re entitled to your opinion as am I. I find it embarrassing and lacking in class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I’m sure there are, just as I’m sure there are posters who are never ever critical of him. Sure, that doesn't discount what you seemed to be disagreeing with though and isn't really comparable anyway. Acknowledging that a trend of ad hominem posts as being a bit out of order isn't misrepresenting the opinions of anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I didn't think he was terrible today, not even sure he was at fault for the first goal, but he has had been poor in quite a few games this season. He still a good player but can't be immune to criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 1, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Indigo said: Sure, that doesn't discount what you seemed to be disagreeing with though and isn't really comparable anyway. Acknowledging that a trend of ad hominem posts as being a bit out of order isn't misrepresenting the opinions of anyone. It’s absolutely comparable, the only difference is only one side of the divided opinion is throwing this stuff out to delegitimise the others views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 1, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, M_Afro said: Ok mate. I disagree. You’re entitled to your opinion as am I. I find it embarrassing and lacking in class. As is everyone mate without having them labelled, that’s the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Thought he had a good game personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Cheers Ty. No coincidence we concede for fun with him on the pitch He's played the vast majority of games and we have the second best defence in the league. We've conceded 5 goals Away from home all season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Tommo_b said: Thought he had a good game personally. Agreed. He's not been in his best form but he had a good game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I think there seems to be that attitude towards him from select people on here and other forms. He deserved criticism against palace but people jump on him constantly. There are also people who jump into this thread immediately when he has a good game to praise him and take shots at the people who criticize him. Lets not act like both sides don't do it. This is roughly true of every thread on a player in here. People have nailed their colours to the mast on their opinions on certain players and will take the very first opportunity to rub it in when evidence is presented that supports their opinion. Its just one side will praise the player, the other will criticize him. Neither has the moral highground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Better today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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