StefanAVFC Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 13 hours ago, bobzy said: No-one else in the World is scoring that free kick, in that manner. Ahem 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Once again Messi proves hes the greatest of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyC_UTV Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Pelle said: Don't wanna argue too much here, as they're both great freekicks, but it's not that close and the reason the keeper never went for it is because he was tricked to go the wrong way. A little off topic so apologies, but didn’t Beckham have about 9 freekicks in that game before he scored, from similar distance etc. I thought the keeper just though **** it he’s missed the last 9, not a chance he’ll get this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Combine Messi and Ronaldo goal totals and they have more goals than our entire Premier League run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 16 hours ago, sne said: Neither Messi nor Ronaldo (or anyone else) can hold a candle against Juninho when it comes to free kicks thou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Pirlo was definitely my favourite when it comes to free kicks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 to be fair to Ronaldo his technique when it works is incredible, the problem is the realization that his technique hardly ever works who was it who scored that crazy 45 yard one for hamburg vs Dortmund years back? guessing hakan calwhatshisface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Zlatan also has quite a few smashing free kicks, but just like Ronaldo his conversion rate is far too low. Although his technique was more to belt in through the keeper using raw power, a bit like Adriano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: to be fair to Ronaldo his technique when it works is incredible, the problem is the realization that his technique hardly ever works who was it who scored that crazy 45 yard one for hamburg vs Dortmund years back? guessing hakan calwhatshisface Calhanoglu made a career from free kicks. Offers little else Was Dutch fella about 10 years ago, brilliant at set pieces. Garbage everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Was Dutch fella about 10 years ago, brilliant at set pieces. Garbage everything else 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: to be fair to Ronaldo his technique when it works is incredible, the problem is the realization that his technique hardly ever works who was it who scored that crazy 45 yard one for hamburg vs Dortmund years back? guessing hakan calwhatshisface Ronaldo simply isn’t a great free kick taker. He’s a great player and, therefore, can still score free kicks - but he’s not a good set piece taker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, bobzy said: Ronaldo simply isn’t a great free kick taker. He’s a great player and, therefore, can still score free kicks - but he’s not a good set piece taker. He is awful statswise, if he scores one its spectacular just like Roberto Carlos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Messi has 5 away goals in the Champions League knockout stages since 2012/13, only 1 goal after the 1st knockout round to go with his zero knockout game goals for Argentina in the World Cup, we might be seeing a trend herel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 he also has more goals vs the top 6 in England this season than any other player piss poor team performance landing on his shoulders again by the sounds of it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 No player can do everything on his own if the entire team is shit, not even Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Piss poor team is such a piss poor excuse. Ronaldo has scored multiple semi final winning goals for Portugal. He has a trophy to his name. Portugal would've finished bottom of their group without him, they won it with it. Surrounded by a bunch of journeymen who were past it, or failures. The trophy haul of the Argentina lineup suggests they aren't bad players. The difference is one is a leader who inspires his team to play as a team. The other isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Piss poor team is such a piss poor excuse. Ronaldo has scored multiple semi final winning goals for Portugal. He has a trophy to his name. Portugal would've finished bottom of their group without him, they won it with it. Surrounded by a bunch of journeymen who were past it, or failures. The trophy haul of the Argentina lineup suggests they aren't bad players. The difference is one is a leader who inspires his team to play as a team. The other isn't. Not saying Messi has the same leadership qualities as Ronaldo, but I think you need to account for manegerial incompetance and the infamous Argie office politics as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Quote And Messi disappeared again: 17 losses and 35 passes Esta time he could not be. This time it did not appear. This time Anfield swallowed Messi. In full, without leaving a small loophole of the best player on the planet that could save their own. This time Liverpool became Rome, and Anfield in the Olympic and Leo was not the Leo that should have been. The party of the 10 of Barcelona was more than discreet, in terms of sensations and in terms of statistics. Messi did not appear with the danger that usually generates, nor even generated for their peers. He did not contribute at an offensive level and much less defensive. The data reflects Messi's loose match. He barely participated and the number of passes that he starred so show, 35 good passes and six bad , a quantity well below his usual average. However, it was the Barcelona player who finished the most, but without success, twice on goal and two away. Another statistic that shows the little danger he created in the rival defense was the number of fouls he received, only one , which confirms how well defended he was. The data that breaks Messi's game is the balance of lost and recovered balls. The Argentine lost a total of 17 balls and only added two recoveries for his own. He was the second Barça player who lost the most balls after Jordi Alba, 21. In this way Messi adds a new match as a visitor without scoring in the semifinals, and is that he does not score in the penultimate round of the Champions League since the 10-11 season at the Santiago Bernabéu, of the 112 goals scored in champions only six have been in semifinals six. https://www.marca.com/futbol/champions-league/2019/05/07/5cd1fd1f468aeba25d8b463a.html From Marca so Google translated. Not his best display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 To be fair to messi he did score 2 goals in this semi final, he has 12 goals in this year's tournament and will finish top scorer, I'm not sure what else you want him to do? Inspire his team mates not to switch off at a corner? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 8, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2019 If Barcelona are standing tall, Messi stands tallest. If Ronaldo's team are on their arses, he lifts every single one of them back to their feet. 6 minutes ago, villa4europe said: To be fair to messi he did score 2 goals in this semi final, he has 12 goals in this year's tournament and will finish top scorer, I'm not sure what else you want him to do? Inspire his team mates not to switch off at a corner? No, but I don't think Ronaldo would've been standing with his hands on his hips looking forlorn immediately after the goal, either. He'd have been furiously geeing everyone up to get a goal. Messi is one of the greatest players we'll ever see, but you'd never be able to call him a leader. Yet here he is, captain of one of the most important teams in the world. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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