DCJonah Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Admitted I did, but after beating Everton and Man U, I thought he may carry on from where we left off and increased my expectations, which I am entitled to do. Beating man U was a game changer, although I thought, then in typical Smith style he brings us back down to earth with 3 straight defeats after 2 great wins standard. Everyone is entitled to change their expectations. But to change them based on just 2 wins, to the point it now makes you angry, seems odd to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I see a midtable team with ups and downs. A team that with 55 pts would usually have easily finished top half. I see a team trying to change the way they've played and are waiting for their big money summer signings to get up to speed or actually be able to play a game. I see a team that gives the ball away top easily and still makes too many defensive errors at the back. Overall I see a club on the up and with or without Dean, a club with solid foundations to continue to build upon. Fair Play. I'll help you get " Grand Master" status, if it kills me. Edited October 26, 2021 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I see a midtable team with ups and downs. A team that with 55 pts would usually have easily finished top half. I see a team trying to change the way they've played and are waiting for their big money summer signings to get up to speed or actually be able to play a game. I see a team that gives the ball away top easily and still makes too many defensive errors at the back. Overall I see a club on the up and with or without Dean, a club with solid foundations to continue to build upon. Actually agree with you here! But the rest points to a undisciplined squad making the same errors since the day Smith came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Admitted I did, but after beating Everton and Man U, I thought he may carry on from where we left off and increased my expectations, which I am entitled to do. Beating man U was a game changer, although I thought, then in typical Smith style he brings us back down to earth with 3 straight defeats after 2 great wins standard. Certainly entitled to do but flawed. In the cold light of day, assessing it you thought midtable but then emotion got hold of you following those wins. When it came back to midtable as you had assessed you were disappointed. Isn’t that on you than Smith? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Certainly entitled to do but flawed. In the cold light of day, assessing it you thought midtable but then emotion got hold of you following those wins. When it came back to midtable as you had assessed you were disappointed. Isn’t that on you than Smith? I've said the same since the day we played our first prem match. The unrealistic expectations of a small selection of fans is not Dean Smith's issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: I've said the same since the day we played our first prem match. The unrealistic expectations of a small selection of fans is not Dean Smith's issue. It’s just hard to reconcile for me when a lot on here predicted midtable for this season but they are now disappointed our expectations aren’t higher and are complaining our team/squad has traits of midtable teams and why isn’t Smith doing better…it’s bonkers. Smith has had three bad loses, he needs to fix it, it’s his responsibility…nothing more. Some fans high expectations are on them and not Smiths issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Jesus some of you could play in our midfield, I'd have no worries about you running flat out for 90 minutes, you lads are showing some serious stamina to keep this debate up for as long as you are. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Jesus some of you could play in our midfield, I'd have no worries about you running flat out for 90 minutes, you lads are showing some serious stamina to keep this debate up for as long as you are. This made me laugh, you can come and go for a few hours and the same debate continues !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This made me laugh, you can come and go for a few hours and the same debate continues !! Tell me about it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
string28 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Jesus some of you could play in our midfield, I'd have no worries about you running flat out for 90 minutes, you lads are showing some serious stamina to keep this debate up for as long as you are. lol its good to watch though. Dean will show an halloween horror show on sunday and win 3-0 remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 hours ago, blandy said: I agree. We've used it for what? 4 league games or something, in part due to injuries. But that's for the selection tactics thread, not this one. What game have we not used 5 at the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Peter Griffin said: What game have we not used 5 at the back? We didn't play that way till Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Anyone think Dean feels the supposed pressure? Strikes me as incredibly calm and collected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Anyone think Dean feels the supposed pressure? Strikes me as incredibly calm and collected If he isn't feeling pressure he isn't the right man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 minute ago, avfc1982am said: If he isn't feeling pressure he isn't the right man for the job. To elaborate....The greatest pressure should come from within. Pressure from upstairs is secondary if you have high standards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, nick76 said: Certainly entitled to do but flawed. In the cold light of day, assessing it you thought midtable but then emotion got hold of you following those wins. When it came back to midtable as you had assessed you were disappointed. Isn’t that on you than Smith? but right now, we are 4 points short of midtable?...maybe when we get back to midtable a few jets will be calmed. Those back to back wins are naturally going to raise hopes.....but 3 sets of back to back wins since the run of 4 last season, brings us back down to earth. so what do we want now?.....exactly what you said, for Dean and his players to turn it around. Edited October 27, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Ashley Preece reporting that 6 villa players all dishing out rollickings to each other, during the Arsenal defeat.....Dean needs to get on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, TRO said: Ashley Preece reporting that 6 villa players all dishing out rollickings to each other, during the Arsenal defeat.....Dean needs to get on top of that. Where is that Tro? I had a look on his Twitter feed but couldn’t see anything. I’ve probably scrolled past it! As far as Dean getting on top of it, it’s a difficult subject and depends on the context as well as the dynamic of the group I think. Some managers/coaches like players to do this, some don’t. If this is not the sort of thing Dean encourages then I agree it needs to be quashed, but I know he has said in interviews before that he likes his coaching staff and his players to challenge him, so he seems all about empowering people. It’s always difficult to properly assess when we only know snippets of information . I will wait to read before I give my opinion properly on it….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, TRO said: Ashley Preece reporting that 6 villa players all dishing out rollickings to each other, during the Arsenal defeat.....Dean needs to get on top of that. He also reported that Grealish was staying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 14 hours ago, avfc1982am said: If he isn't feeling pressure he isn't the right man for the job. He's always been big on " Emotional control " and being measured, ever since he came in, he stressed as much in interviews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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